Dr. Jack Kruse Uncensored | BIS #209

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Dr. Jack Cruz, welcome to the Bitcoin Infinity Show. Nice to have you here.

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Thank you. Pleasure to be here.

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Yes, and you're by a nice pool in El Salvador, I believe.

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Yeah, this is my house. One of three, or actually one of four that I have here.

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I'm actually getting ready to leave this one and go down to Costa del Sol Beach after you and I speak.

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Fantastic.

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Yeah, I can't wait to get back to El Salvador.

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I'm scheduled once again for the Bitcoin Historical Conference in November,

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and I just can't wait to get back.

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I absolutely love it there.

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What can you say?

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We need to move down here, Knut.

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We need to have you down here.

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Yeah, I should.

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Going to El Salvador from Europe is mind-blowing,

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because even if I talk to normies here and say that I work in Bitcoin,

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they sneer at me and like,

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ah, you're a semi-criminal just because I refuse to use money

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that criminals can't print more of.

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So the propaganda is huge in Europe

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and just getting over to El Salvador where I'm revered

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rather than sneered at, it's life-changing.

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I agree.

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Yeah. And we met briefly in Prague and you have been in the talks on X and everything in Bitcoin circles after Prague.

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I even heard it after your talk that there was some censorship going on.

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I don't know what to believe, but I'd love to hear your story about what happened in Prague.

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What is Fabianism?

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And why are you so controversial, according to others?

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Let's dissect this from the beginning.

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So before we do all that, though, since you haven't been on before, I'm getting ahead of myself here.

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Please introduce yourself and give us a TLDR on Dr. Jack Cruz, for those who don't know.

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Yeah.

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My name is Dr. Jack Cruz.

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I'm a board-certified neurosurgeon, retired now.

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I retired about 18 months ago.

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I cut my teeth in centralized Rockefeller medicine as an oral surgeon and a neurosurgeon.

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I have both a dental and a medical degree, and I practiced for close to 40 years.

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I came down here to El Salvador, written a constitutional amendment for President Bukele

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and the people here in El Salvador about decentralized medicine.

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And I've been a Bitcoiner early on because one of my good friends is someone you may know,

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Jack Dorsey, got me into Bitcoin pretty early.

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Not as early as I should have because I didn't listen to him.

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I thought he was a dumbass.

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So it shows you that my Bitcoin journey, I was really a dumbass in the beginning.

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So my entire life, now that I'm in my sixth decade, has been about decentralizing everything in my life, from biology to money to first principle thinking.

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So that's kind of where I'm at.

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All right. And decentralization, what's the benefit there? Because I see decentralization

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not only as a good thing, perhaps. I mean, hierarchies are nothing against hierarchies,

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as long as they're consensual. And decentralization, I know it's needed in Bitcoin because we

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cannot trust other human beings with a money printer. But what's the benefit of decentralization

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in other areas of life than just Bitcoin?

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Well, the big one that I'm an expert in is medicine.

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And, you know, if you know anything about the history of medicine,

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both in the United States and in Europe,

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it goes back to two of the robber barons,

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which I'm sure you know about,

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Carnegie, J.P. Morgan, and Rockefeller.

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But who was the first person that brought it in was Carnegie.

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He was a Scottish guy that was a steel magnate in the United States.

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Those three robber barons tried to game a presidential election in 1900.

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They put a guy named William McKinley in as president.

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Their money paid for it.

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And then a Serbian refugee in New York City shot McKinley.

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And back in those days, American politics weren't so smart.

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They put the worst enemy of the three robber barons as vice president because back in those days, they thought the vice president should be kept quiet.

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And generally in the United States system, the vice president is quiet.

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But this was proof of concept in the U.S. that when you kill a president and your mortal enemy takes over, you know what happens next.

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Standard Oil Trust gets broken up.

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And then Carnegie and Rockefeller come up with a program called the Flexner Report.

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And the Flexner Report basically was the same story that I tried to bring to the stage at Prague.

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It was a Landauer attack on medicine.

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where they basically erased all of the underpinning of biophysics to health.

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And what did that effectively do?

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It centralized everything in medicine from 1911 onward

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so that people would have a biochemical-only program.

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And why did that make sense?

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Because when Rockefeller had Standard Oil broken up,

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He formed all different companies and used the waste products of the petrochemical industry, both oil and kerosene, to start making drugs.

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And he famously told Franklin, I should say, Teddy Roosevelt at the main hearing that his job for the rest of his life through his children and his foundation would be to bankrupt America.

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And the first attack, centralized attack, Landauer attack, was the Flexner Report.

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And they successfully did that attack on Western medicine.

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And you know, Knut, anything that happens in the United States gets imported to Europe.

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What was Rockefeller's, how shall we say, analogy?

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He used the ideas that were heavily tied to German medicine, allopathic medicine at that time.

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So this was fundamentally a European idea that was generalized all over the world after Flexner.

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And what did they do?

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They changed the educational curriculum from a decentralized outlook and made it very centralized.

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They made biochemistry top of the list.

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And you have to remember historical facts at that time, Knut.

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Biochemistry was in its very formative stages, okay?

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Just like...

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Hang on.

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Is this during the Weimar Republic era?

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because I know they pumped people full of drugs back then.

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Everyone from housewives to, like they threw people,

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gave them tons of LSD and threw them into dark rooms in hospitals and stuff.

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Fascinating.

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That's why I said these two things,

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Bitcoiners are not really good at knowing the history of medicine

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and how it ties to Bitcoin.

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That's why I always tell people that health and wealth are fundamentally linked.

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But this is how I came to understand the Landauer attack the first way because the Flexner Report was a Landauer attack for my profession.

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And when I grew up in medicine, I was always taught that it was always biochemistry versus biophysics.

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And when you get as a neurosurgeon and you do all the things that you learn in residency and you start doing it on people and it doesn't work, you have two options.

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Either you fall in line with the rest of the people or you begin to question what you were taught.

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And I'm that guy that began to question what I was taught.

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So where that brings us to is you need to, second question you asked me was about Fabianism.

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You need to understand where Fabianism comes from.

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I've done many podcasts with many Bitcoiners.

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I think probably the best one that talks about Fabianism is the 10-hour podcast I did with Breedlove on where it comes from.

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You need to understand that Fabianism comes from Queen Victoria.

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She came into the game 1837 in the UK.

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She basically tried to unify all the royal families in Europe Instead she gave everybody hemophilia and she created a lot of problems She dies in 1900 right at the same time this McKinley thing going on

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And then what happens?

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The cousins and the royal families in different places get into fights, and we get World War I.

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And you know as a Bitcoiner what the end result of that is.

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We wind up with the Treaty of Versailles.

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Now, here's the problem.

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The people who started Fabianism were people from Saxe-Coburn-Gotha.

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That was the original name of the royal family in Europe, meaning UK, before they changed it to Windsor in World War I.

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Why? Because the royal family, specifically Queen Victoria's son, who ruled after she died, found that it wasn't good to have German heritage during the World War.

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So they changed the name from Saxe-Coburn-Gotha to Windsor, which is the name of a castle that's pretty close to London.

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And that is how that history changes. And the people that came from Saks, Coburn, Grotha in 1947, they come to the United States. They were the original people, still loyal to the queen, not the people in the United States.

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and they were very important in helping take out Abraham Lincoln,

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also very important in fomenting the civil war in the United States.

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Why?

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Because the royal family in the UK wanted to get a Lloyd-Ele title back

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to the United States, which they had lost in the American Revolution.

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You know how that went.

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It didn't go very well.

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But the story where Bitcoiners pick it up is usually right at the Treaty of Versailles.

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Who were the original Fabians that were loyal still to the crown, but technically Americans?

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That was John Foster Dulles and Alan Dulles.

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These people became much more important later in the 20th century because they were involved with JFK's assassination.

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So you start to see a trend here happening.

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And it was Alan Dulles who actually sat down with Keyes to come up with the terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

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And you know that that eventually leads us to the Weimar Republic.

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Then it leads us to ultimately World War II.

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It also leads us to the story where the Rothschilds come back in, join forces with the Rockefellers in the United States.

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These are two Fabian forces.

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How did the Rockefellers come in?

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I think I laid that clearly out in the beginning of our podcast here.

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that when Teddy Roosevelt broke up Standard Oil,

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Rockefeller said he wanted to bankrupt the United States.

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This was something that perked up the years of the Rothschild family

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who were working on behalf of the royal family in the UK.

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And then after World War I, we got the Balfour Declaration,

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which was written by the Fabians.

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The Fabian Society came to prominence in the UK right around 1870.

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These are the same people that originally started off in Saxe-Cobor and Gotha.

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Who were those people?

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That's Theodore Herzl.

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These are the people that famously now are branded as Zionist.

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They basically took Palestine in World War I, and they wanted to make it into its own country, Israel.

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And slowly over time, from the time they got Palestine from the Ottoman Empire, this process began.

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The key document that starts all that is the Balfour Declaration written in November of 1917.

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So the Fabians start with Theodore Herzl, and then it goes to the London School of Economics.

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That's where Keyes comes from.

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I think most Bitcoiners know that.

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In Prague, you heard me say that you can see Fabianism.

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If you go to the London School of Economics, you will see the stained glass window that is still present to this very day.

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of a sheep's and wolf's clothing. Why is that? What is the modus operandi of the Fabians to do

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small little incremental changes to lead to total control? That's really what the goal was. Why?

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The original idea came from Queen Victoria's father to get the Aloyedil title back to the USA.

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This got compounded in World War I. Why? Because at the same time in World War I's going on, we have the Bolshevik Revolution, where a group of Fabians that were in USSR decided to kill the Nicholas de Czar, which was not what the UK royal family had planned.

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And then they lost the loyal title to the USSR. So now they lose two countries.

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Okay? So what is the goal after the Weimar Republic? We need to start another war to see if we can get both the Lloyd Eel titles back for the royal family. And Britain has a very dubious distinction. They've been on a winning side both times and still lost a Lloyd Eel title to both of the countries they tried to go.

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The two families became linked right around 1930, 1933.

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This is the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.

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And they have been in unison, both not only in banking, but in financialization.

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The Rockefellers in the United States have really expanded big pharma.

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That's become one of their major businesses.

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And they also got, in the 1940s and 50s, big into biotechnology.

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What was the biotechnology that they got into?

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They figured out how to deuterate the water table of the United States, utilizing competitive inhibitors of melanin.

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They changed the food.

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And why did they do that?

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So they could sell us more drugs to bankrupt the country.

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This is the main reason why food in the United States is radically different than it is in Europe even today.

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and what the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are trying to do right now through Fabianism,

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through many different pathways, is to actually get some of those same chemicals into the European

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system so they can ruin your food supply like they did in the United States from 1940 to current

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times. Wow, there's a lot to unpack there. I would maybe add that I think a lot of this is

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downstream of the UK going off the gold standard in 1914 to finance World War I.

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And that is why these forces became so powerful, so they were able to do all of this stuff.

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Like, it's basically...

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Well, you know, as a Bitcoiner like I do, that everything always comes back to money.

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So when the money gets polluted, then you have to see history from that lens.

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The problem is, I hate to say this, but I probably can say this to you because you're

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an older Bitcoiner and probably know your history better than most. My frustration as a boomer in

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Bitcoin, I know the history inside and out. The younger Bitcoiners don't. They keep always going

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back to 1971. But this story really goes back much, much sooner to truly understand why we're

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still being attacked by the same families for the same reasons. I mean, I think 1914 is a good

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starting point because that's really where the excessive money printing starts and the gold

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standards is really abandoned. And also they called World War One wasn't called World War One

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when it happened. It was called the Great War. And if you view it as a war waged by the government

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and they were fighting their subjects, then it's still ongoing. We're still in. We're still victims

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of that war.

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That's why they can still steal our money

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through taxes and inflation.

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If they hadn't had that,

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if they hadn't dropped the gold standard

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even back in early World War I,

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we wouldn't have had half the problems

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we have today

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because that's where it all begins

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in my view anyway.

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Yeah, I totally agree with you.

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Yeah, so Fabianism,

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and you say that they were even

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in the USSR, like that the Fabians were being—

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That's what the Bolsheviks are.

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Same pathway, the same people.

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And you have to remember, Trotsky was the guy between Lenin and Stalin

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that made the unilateral decision to kill the czar.

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That was not the plan of the royal family or the Rothschilds.

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Trotsky took it upon himself and he paid dearly because Stalin came back and killed him in Mexico City in 1940 for that decision And how did that come to pass in United States history

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These were the talks that you probably remember between the big three in World War II.

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This is when Stalin talked to FDR at Yalta, and that's when he clued him in to Trotsky and Stalin.

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and the fact that Stalin was the one that put the hit on Trotsky for killing the czar.

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And when FDR heard that, he famously told Stalin that he would help rebuild Russia at the end of the war

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because it was clear to FDR at that time that the enemy at the table was Churchill.

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The royal family was the real problem.

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They goaded us into two world wars.

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And that is the reason why

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When people go back and really look at the history

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FDR was a real big champion

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Of Stalin

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And what Stalin had done

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Because effectively Stalin is the one that beat the Nazis in Germany

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The interesting part

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Is who's the young politician at this time

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Who's learning all this

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Because he's in the war

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It's JFK

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And JFK

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If you go back and listen to his famous talk

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At American University in 1960

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He actually tells the world

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Before he's the president

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that we owe a debt of gratitude to Russia for what they did in World War II.

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Well, you can imagine in 1960, this didn't sit too well with the Zionists that were now running Israel.

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And this is part of the reason why the Fabians that were involved in the Treaty of Versailles were germane

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and sought partnership with the people in Israel to take out JFK later.

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That's why this whole train of history is really, really important to understand.

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And it also explains where the Cold War comes from, because if FDR doesn't die in 44 like he did, the United States Marshall Plan not only rebuilds Europe, but it probably rebuilds Russia.

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And Russia is no longer the bad guy.

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It allows the guy who ran the Manhattan Project, Leslie Groves, to pollute the new president who comes in, which is Harry Truman.

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He convinces Truman to drop a bomb that should have been dropped.

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And then that same general gets Truman to change ONI and OSS in the United States to the CIA, and then all hell breaks loose.

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Then eventually we have what becomes known as ARPA and DARPA forming outside the U.S. government.

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Why? Because the president who came in after Truman was a four-star general you may have heard of, which is Dwight Eisenhower.

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Eisenhower had a reverence for what happened truly in World War II.

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He knew that the Russians destroyed Nazi Germany through their attack and that we came in much later in the game.

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In fact, he was one of the people that thought that Normandy was useless at this point because we're so late in the war.

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But nonetheless, when he came in, he famously had a pretty good relationship with the Russians.

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But, and here's the big but, he hated General Groves.

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He thought that General Groves, along with Patton, Patton and Eisenhower on the same team,

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they thought that General Groves tried to take a lot of credit for the war by dropping the bombs.

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So what effectively happened with Eisenhower in the United States, he pushes General Groves out of the government.

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General Groves goes outside the government, seeks refuge with capitalists from Silicon Valley, and they start the industrial military complex outside the United States.

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Who is the big benefactor at this time? Howard Hughes and the Rockefellers. What happens?

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They basically form the industrial military complex by using key companies. One of those companies is Sperry that turns into Univac.

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And what is the big thing that gets General Groh's power back in?

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You may remember in 1957 and 58 that the United States government during Eisenhower's second term was shocked when the Russians put Sputnik up in space.

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No one expected them to do that.

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Because the United States had taken most of the Manhattan Project and funneled it towards making nuclear bombs.

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The Russians did something a little bit different.

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They made nuclear bombs, but they also spent a lot of money in their space program.

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They also spent a lot of money in their biophysics program, which is why I know a lot about this topic, because this was the buried science from the Flexner report.

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So what happens from that standpoint?

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Eisenhower says, I need to get information about how we can catch up in the space race, because now there are satellites above us.

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In other words, we no longer have the high position in war.

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So what do you have?

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The space race begins.

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Who's the guy that champions that?

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It's JFK.

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He says, we're going to go to the moon within a decade.

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But the most famous thing that happens as far as I'm concerned, both in medicine and in Bitcoin, is in January of 1960.

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when Eisenhower is leaving and he gives the famous speech

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that the biggest enemy in the world for Americans

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and the rest of the world is the industrial military complex

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that was brought back into the government in 1958 and 59.

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That was called ARPA.

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Its name was changed in 59 to DARPA.

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And those are the guys that are linked to both the Rothschilds

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and Rockefellers to this very day.

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And most of the R&D in the United States, that's not only done on the financialization side, but also in biology, is done by the same group of people.

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And they use the same colleges to do it.

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What are those colleges?

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Stanford, MIT, Harvard.

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What was originally ARPA?

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ARPA was the computer network that set all these computers up.

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Where did the idea come from?

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General Groves, in terms of siloization that he built in the Manhattan Project to keep the spies low, this is still used to the very day in 2026 in the United States.

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So they silo scientists, they silo different developments that they want. And this leads to centralization for the industrial military complex on the financial side. That's the financial industrial complex, you know, that we have to worry about in Bitcoin.

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And that is the viewpoint where I leave it right at the JFK level.

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And then everything that happens from that standpoint in medicine and Bitcoin really becomes linked through Fabianism.

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Why these people in the United States have never gone away.

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And Canute, I don't know how much you know about me and my history, but I did a pretty famous podcast three years ago with a guy named Danny Jones where I laid this Fabianism story out.

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And there was two specific people that I had targeted that I mentioned to you at Prague.

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This is Casey and Callie Means.

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Their father was Grady Means, who was a lieutenant for David Rockefeller in the United States.

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He was a Council of Foreign Relations member, Atlantic Society member.

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Why was this a problem for me?

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I did another pretty famous podcast in medicine with Andrew Uberman and Rick Rubin on the Tetragrammaton podcast.

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podcast. In that podcast, I told people that I had known some very important information and I

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shared with Bobby Kennedy that day that the SV40 bioweapon from the polio jabs was now found in

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COVID. Bobby Kennedy didn't know that and he had no idea how I knew it. And I told him that live

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on a podcast and that floored him. Well, eventually, you know what happens. Bobby Kennedy and Trump

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go to Bitcoin Nashville in 23. They both get on the stage. They have their conversation. I am

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famously sitting in the VIP section there with my Kennedy hat on, and I see Howard Lutnick come out,

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and I said, that's it. We're in trouble. This is a big issue. So what did I know? How does this go

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back to the Casey and Callie Means story I knew through my connections with people in the Kennedy community that Casey Means was going to be nominated for the attorney general of the United States

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I should say for the surgeon general of the United States.

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This meant that the Fabians would be led through the front door

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for centralized medicine.

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That meant that the idea of MAHA, which is make America healthy again,

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would be polluted.

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How did MAHA start?

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Most of you Europeans don't know that.

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you've been told a bullshit story, but it started with Bukele. I wrote that law that I told you

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about. And I sat down and Bobby Kennedy found out about that law. He called me up and we spoke on

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the phone for two hours about the law. And he said, Jack, can you send me the law so that I can

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look at it with Aaron Seary, who is his attorney? And I said, if Bukele okays it, I'll do it. So I

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called the president Bukele and I was given the okay to send the law. From that law, from Bobby

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and I talking, that's where Amaha was born. What does Bobby do next? He asks Nicole Shanahan,

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who's one of my patients and friends, to be vice president. So through this process, I find out

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that Trump's choice for chief of staff is Susie Wiles, who's a big pharma executive tied to the

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Rockefellers. Her job is to put Cali means in to change the narrative from COVID to food.

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So we went from the big elephant in the room, which is the shots, harming people, which you heard me say from the stage at Prague,

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and which is why Matthias and his brother had me to come to Prague the two previous years to talk about this.

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Callie comes on and tries to change it about Froot Loops and Red Dye No. 5.

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And I put him on that podcast, and I did a pretty famous morbidity and mortality conference with him, and I took him apart piece by piece.

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I had hired CIA and FBI investigators to get and make sure everything was factual.

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And I did it right then and there.

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And I warned everybody three years ago that him and his sister would be a problem.

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So, Knut, this whole time, people didn't like what Jack Cruz did.

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They thought that this was too heavy handed.

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They thought this was toxic Rockefeller decentralization, you know, maximalism.

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And I took all the arrows

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And guess what happens

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About six months ago

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Casey Means all the questions

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That the Senate asked her

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She couldn't answer

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These are all the ones that I brought up in the podcast

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Same thing with Callie

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Callie now has been minimized in the government

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And his sister's been thrown out

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So the point I try to make to you

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Is that these people were the amber

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Put around Bobby Kennedy

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So he couldn't do the things

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In HHS

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that need to be done because of big harma.

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Okay?

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That's the issue.

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Fast forward to Prague.

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About three years ago, I find out

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very similar type attack is beginning to happen in Bitcoin.

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And I'm at a very famous meeting

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with another Bitcoiner who you can fact check me.

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I was sitting there with Parker Lewis.

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There was a couple of other Fabians in the room

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that call themselves Bitcoiners,

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but I don't believe they are. And some of the famous words that were used in this meeting

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were ossification, extinction, Bitcoin doesn't have to be money. And to his credit, I kept my

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mouth shut. I didn't say too many things, but Parker Lewis literally came out of his chair and

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is ready to kill people. And the rest of the Fabians in the room didn't understand truly

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what was happening. And I realized right away that I needed to pay big time attention to some

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of the connections to Fabian's in Bitcoin. And I knew that it was through MIT from what I had told

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you previously. So when I went back home, I started to go through my network of things that I have

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through my takedown of centralized medicine. I had come upon some boxes, a place where I did

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my residency. And I had found a lot of information about these colleges that I had told you about

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that were big in ARPA. And in those boxes, there was some more information that led me

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to hiring the same two guys that I hired for the Casey and Cali means thing. And I said, look,

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I think there's an interesting link here between what happened in the human genome project and

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what's going on in Bitcoin right now. I'm not sure the link, but I'd like you to look out upon it.

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The same time, one of my patients who you heard about in the Prague talk comes to me with some very interesting information.

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His concern in the last six months is that there was a core developer that put a specific, I guess you would call it NFT that he created, but it was linked through a video to some child sexual abuse material.

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and it showed up on the base chain.

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To the core developer's, I guess, I don't want to say credit,

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but he did edit it.

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But people like Matthew Crowder have talked about it.

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And this person had worked with this core developer.

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And he told me, he said, you did surgery on me when I was a little boy.

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You saved my life.

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You taught my family about the Landauer attack in medicine.

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And he goes, I believe this is a Landauer attack in Bitcoin.

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And that kind of stunned me.

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When I took what he told me and I gave it to the guys that were investigating some of the things that happened at that meeting with Parker Lewis, a story began to show.

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The investigator started to tell me, you know, these emails that the Department of Justice just released, they're linked to this story.

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And I was like, really?

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And I said, well, lay this all out for me. I need to see what the links are. Now, I've never publicly mentioned any of this in any Bitcoin podcast. I really haven't said anything about it at all.

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But when Matthias and his brother asked me to speak at Prague, I said, is it fair game that I could do the first ever Bitcoin morbidity and mortality conference there?

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Why? Because I knew because the cover of the Fabians that are in Bitcoin are done by people that run the Bitcoin meetings in the United States and their media.

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They give press coverage to those Fabians.

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They're always shown in a good light.

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These people always have really positive, how shall we say, vibes around them.

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I said, what I'm probably going to say is pretty unpopular.

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It's very, very similar to what I knew I was going to get into with Casey and Callie Meats.

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But I was very confident that I'm a big boy.

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I can take the arrows for a long period of time.

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And don't you think in that subsequent time, some of the Department of Justice emails get unfurled and the public begins to find out that some very prominent Bitcoiners are linked to the Epstein files.

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And where does it magically happen? At MIT, the same place that I had told you that showed up on the centralized story with Epstein with medicine in the Human Genome Project. And I thought this is really, really bizarre.

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So through my work, most of the work was done through Epstein

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And just so you know, Knute, I started putting all this information on my website three years ago

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For my members in a protected site, mostly for doctors

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So the public couldn't get access to this

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And I laid out all the emails on the medicine side and the Bitcoin side

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And I basically told my members that I felt that we had a problem in Bitcoin. I felt that there are six specific people that were a big issue. Out of the six, I used the same, how shall we say, sliding scale that I used in the Diane Jones podcast for Casey and Callie Means, which was ignorance or fraud.

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And through my homework, my due diligence as a toxic Bitcoin maximalist, five out of the six I felt were fraudulent.

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thoughts. One, I felt was ignorant of that. And my job, I felt at Prague this year,

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was to present this case to the plebs. Why? Because my belief, and you may not know this,

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but I will tell you, I told no one in Bitcoin what I was going to do except one person.

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And I called him three days before I left for Prague, and that was Matthew Crowder.

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And I said, Matthew, this is what I'm going to talk about. And I told him how I was going to

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attacked us and he was stunned. Okay. He said, I haven't heard you talk about BIP 110 ever.

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And I'm like, yeah, there's a reason for that. I had to get all my ducks in alignment to make sure

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that this truly was a Bitcoin land our attack. And I'm very confident now that, um, that is in

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fact the case. I know who the players were. I know why they were siloed. I know why some of the

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core developers still to this very day don't know that they were played by other people in the

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Bitcoin community. Do I know that this story links through Taproot? Do I know this story links through

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Segwit? Absolutely. These are all Fabian techniques that they make a small little change that you

427
00:35:58,669 --> 00:36:06,869
don't see and they lead to bigger problems down the road. These exploits were unleashed and now

428
00:36:06,869 --> 00:36:14,589
we have a problem. So my belief where I am currently right now, because you and I have

429
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:21,049
not talked about this, I believe BIP-110 is a solution to parts of this problem, but I'm going

430
00:36:21,049 --> 00:36:26,849
to be very clear with you. I don't think BIP-110 goes far enough. I think BIP-110 is a great white

431
00:36:26,849 --> 00:36:33,069
shark with not enough teeth. And I told Matthew that when I spoke to him before I went to Prague

432
00:36:33,069 --> 00:36:55,649
And he ironically had told me that some of the people he talks with about this feel the same way I do. And I think that we need to go even more pedal to the metal to stop this. Why? Why am I so vehement about this? I saw what the Landauer attack did in medicine. It completely ruined my profession and it happened over time.

433
00:36:55,649 --> 00:37:02,649
The attack in medicine started in 1911, but where did it get obvious in the 1960s and 70s?

434
00:37:02,749 --> 00:37:10,229
If you think about what Bitcoin's got to deal with, we now have until 2140 until we get to 21 million coins.

435
00:37:10,289 --> 00:37:14,669
That means the amount of time entropy that Bitcoin can be attacked this way is huge.

436
00:37:15,069 --> 00:37:21,609
And I see the exact same problem developing for Bitcoin that the Rockefellers created in medicine.

437
00:37:21,609 --> 00:37:27,529
And my job is not to tell plebs that run nodes what to do.

438
00:37:27,849 --> 00:37:32,769
I'm here to tell you what I found, what I'm doing, and why I think it's important.

439
00:37:33,089 --> 00:37:38,449
And I think I had the bully pulpit for 30 minutes in Prague to state that case.

440
00:37:39,029 --> 00:37:40,129
And I think I did.

441
00:37:41,069 --> 00:37:46,129
And unfortunately, some of my slides got deleted.

442
00:37:46,669 --> 00:37:50,649
I have subsequently released those on a Patreon blog so everybody can review them.

443
00:37:50,649 --> 00:38:00,989
And I did, how shall we say, a St. John the Baptist podcast with Natalie Brunel one day before this talk.

444
00:38:01,209 --> 00:38:03,629
And what was that podcast really about, Canute?

445
00:38:03,889 --> 00:38:06,189
It's actually about what you and I are talking about right now.

446
00:38:06,269 --> 00:38:08,249
It was, what is Fabianism?

447
00:38:08,429 --> 00:38:09,449
Where did it come from?

448
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:11,149
How did it pollute medicine?

449
00:38:11,269 --> 00:38:13,269
And how did it pollute Bitcoin?

450
00:38:13,269 --> 00:38:32,529
And for Natalie to come out publicly and say that, well, my listeners are not interested in this topic, made me realize right away that there are people and factions in Bitcoin media that are protecting the Fabians that are inside the gate.

451
00:38:32,529 --> 00:38:49,469
The Trojan horse is already inside and it's our job to limit it. And I think the people that came up with BIP-110, they are people that are trying to help. And, you know, I'm under no illusions that BIP-110 is, you know, absolutely the best option.

452
00:38:49,469 --> 00:39:01,169
I have shared with a couple of other people, some of my friends that I sat with at Bitcoin Nashville in the VIP section when Bobby and Trump were on there and Lutnick walked out.

453
00:39:01,269 --> 00:39:05,709
I think we need more in this area.

454
00:39:06,009 --> 00:39:10,229
And I think the problem is very similar to what Bukele did here in El Salvador.

455
00:39:10,229 --> 00:39:13,789
We have to get rid of the problem in core.

456
00:39:13,789 --> 00:39:21,449
We have to get rid of the power base of the Fabians in these corporations that are supporting

457
00:39:21,449 --> 00:39:24,129
core so they continue on this approach.

458
00:39:24,369 --> 00:39:30,969
The best way to do that is I believe the nodes are the immune system for the pathogens that

459
00:39:30,969 --> 00:39:32,949
are inside the Trojan horse.

460
00:39:33,309 --> 00:39:41,909
And I think when people understand that, even though this BIP-110 construction is not ideal,

461
00:39:41,909 --> 00:39:51,189
It reminds me a lot of what happened with BIP-148, and that was also very flawed if you think about it.

462
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:55,249
But it turned out to be very effective in terms of how it went.

463
00:39:55,409 --> 00:40:03,649
The problem is if we don't solve this problem, we didn't solve it then, and we certainly are not going to solve it in August.

464
00:40:04,649 --> 00:40:10,249
But we need to do something fundamentally as node runners to change the mix.

465
00:40:10,249 --> 00:40:17,429
And we need to understand that these Fabians that are with the Rockefeller and Rothschilds, they're not going to stop.

466
00:40:17,569 --> 00:40:20,969
They're going to keep fighting Bitcoin all the way through.

467
00:40:21,269 --> 00:40:29,789
That really was the core message that I wanted to bring to the plebs so that they understand that our vigilance has to be high all the time.

468
00:40:30,229 --> 00:40:33,489
The attacks that we're going to face, they're going to be very slick.

469
00:40:33,489 --> 00:40:35,529
And let me be very clear about this.

470
00:40:35,529 --> 00:40:44,989
Epstein was hired by the Rothschilds to go find the smartest physicists and the smartest mathematicians to slow Bitcoin down.

471
00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:46,609
And that's exactly what he did.

472
00:40:47,069 --> 00:40:48,229
And then what did he do?

473
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:51,449
He sought the people out that could affect that process.

474
00:40:51,629 --> 00:40:54,729
That's what the Department of Justice email showed us.

475
00:40:54,729 --> 00:40:55,249
Okay.

476
00:40:55,789 --> 00:41:03,749
Now, the key is, even though that bad stuff has happened, we now need to react as node runners.

477
00:41:03,909 --> 00:41:04,069
Why?

478
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:06,249
Because we can still hinder them.

479
00:41:06,709 --> 00:41:08,969
This land our attack in Bitcoin is still indirect.

480
00:41:09,189 --> 00:41:11,609
It's not direct like it was in medicine.

481
00:41:12,169 --> 00:41:16,789
So do I believe, am I still very optimistic about Bitcoin long term?

482
00:41:16,969 --> 00:41:17,309
Yes.

483
00:41:18,029 --> 00:41:24,289
But I do believe the problem we have in Bitcoin is like the problem in alcoholism or drug addiction.

484
00:41:24,649 --> 00:41:28,449
You have to be aware of the problem to solve it first.

485
00:41:28,449 --> 00:41:35,569
and I don't believe many people are truly aware of what the attack vector is.

486
00:41:36,189 --> 00:41:41,189
And that was my modus operandi in Prague when you heard the talk.

487
00:41:41,769 --> 00:41:43,729
Holy shit, there's a lot to unpack there.

488
00:41:44,009 --> 00:41:47,749
And yeah, this is way worse than we thought, I guess.

489
00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:51,489
Yeah, a couple of things that come to mind here.

490
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:53,609
Excuse me for ranting for a while.

491
00:41:53,609 --> 00:42:07,629
Back in my tall ship sailing days, we visited Normandy, and there's a little piece of American land there that France gave to the U.S. to honor the soldiers who died in Normandy.

492
00:42:07,629 --> 00:42:17,169
And I vividly remember getting there because it was one of those, holy shit, everything collectivist is evil moments in my life.

493
00:42:17,269 --> 00:42:26,709
Because in order to get into this little piece of land of the free within France, you had to go through one of those airport security things.

494
00:42:27,269 --> 00:42:32,989
So I'm being scanned and all of this bullshit to enter a graveyard for free men.

495
00:42:32,989 --> 00:42:42,949
And when I see the graveyard and there's thousands of crucifixes, I mean, I wrote about this in my first book.

496
00:42:42,949 --> 00:42:44,549
I've been there, so I know what you're talking about.

497
00:42:44,609 --> 00:42:49,649
Yeah, and a handful of David Starr graves, no names on them.

498
00:42:50,109 --> 00:42:56,069
And I'm just thinking of ceremonial burial is really where war starts.

499
00:42:56,069 --> 00:43:03,769
When you can fool 18-year-olds that they're going to get 17 virgins in heaven or whatever, they can attack the neighboring tribe.

500
00:43:04,369 --> 00:43:10,649
So psychopaths have been using people for thousands and thousands of years.

501
00:43:10,749 --> 00:43:32,546
And here was this perfect example of everything wrong with everything from organized religion to nation states to governments to globalism I vividly remember having this feeling of something with humanity is really fucking off man like we we we are not good at seeing the actual problem and the all the lessons

502
00:43:32,546 --> 00:43:38,366
from world war ii it should have been you know governments are fucking evil we should abandon

503
00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:42,346
them all and never listen to what they say ever again they're lying and they kill people

504
00:43:42,346 --> 00:43:47,726
but no one reason why this goes down let me tell you the reason why this goes down and you know this

505
00:43:47,726 --> 00:43:51,926
The victors write the books. That's the reason why you never hear this.

506
00:43:51,926 --> 00:44:00,006
But no one thinks of what it implies. It means that all of history is super wrong and written by psychopaths.

507
00:44:01,186 --> 00:44:01,406
Correct.

508
00:44:01,666 --> 00:44:07,086
And when you add corrupt money to the mix, it's even worse. So forget everything you know.

509
00:44:07,086 --> 00:44:23,546
So, yeah, back to, I want to, for the skeptics out there, and I hope all my listeners are skeptics, the whole Landauer theory and Fabianism and all of this, the history you laid out there, where can people study this stuff?

510
00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:24,666
Where's the evidence?

511
00:44:24,926 --> 00:44:27,886
Where should they start looking if they want to do their own research?

512
00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:29,306
Because I think that's important.

513
00:44:29,306 --> 00:44:38,506
There's many books written about Fabianism, and there's many books that actually link the Dulles Brothers directly to this.

514
00:44:38,646 --> 00:44:45,466
I think you can find that not only in history books, but also in books that are written by Wall Street bankers.

515
00:44:45,606 --> 00:44:48,106
So that's easy to find.

516
00:44:48,106 --> 00:44:57,146
Now, the flip side of the Landauer issue, you have to remember, this is now an axiomatic law of math and physics.

517
00:44:57,146 --> 00:45:00,146
It was first discovered in 1961.

518
00:45:00,766 --> 00:45:07,106
It was a guy named Rolf Landauer who proposed that information and atomic mass were one and the same thing.

519
00:45:07,586 --> 00:45:11,646
Of course, you can imagine this created a huge firestorm in physics.

520
00:45:11,646 --> 00:45:19,126
And a physicist, very famous, named John Wheeler, took it on and they went through a period of experimentation.

521
00:45:19,126 --> 00:45:27,926
and they found that Landauer's principle was an axiomatic law of nature that information has a cost.

522
00:45:27,926 --> 00:45:33,846
This happens, of course, after Claude Shannon, after Turing.

523
00:45:34,506 --> 00:45:38,586
These guys never filtered any of this stuff into their theory.

524
00:45:38,826 --> 00:45:48,926
But today, in communications, anything that uses any type of thermodynamics has to be Landauer protected.

525
00:45:48,926 --> 00:46:10,586
And it turns out Bitcoin has, since it is a thermodynamic decentralized network, even though it's artificial, it operates just like the base chain in biology, which is DNA and RNA, which is the point that I try to make at the Prague meeting, that you need to understand what the machinations are of this attack.

526
00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:16,766
So the science of the Landauer principle is easy to find out why.

527
00:46:16,766 --> 00:46:26,566
There's been gobs written, not only in math and physics, but a lot of it is written tied to Shannon's theory of entropy and information processing.

528
00:46:27,126 --> 00:46:31,186
In fact, it's used just about in every single cell carrier.

529
00:46:31,446 --> 00:46:33,146
It's used in all of their networks.

530
00:46:33,986 --> 00:46:39,626
So, and in fact, it's built in to what Satoshi built in in the beginning.

531
00:46:39,726 --> 00:46:39,866
Why?

532
00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:53,746
Because the proof of work mechanism has to be Landauer compliant, which is why one of the slides that I showed tell you that two people at Links to MIT that have degrees should know about this.

533
00:46:53,886 --> 00:46:57,906
And the irony is both of these guys now are running treasury companies.

534
00:46:58,146 --> 00:47:00,606
Both of these guys never talk about the Landauer principle.

535
00:47:01,066 --> 00:47:04,206
In fact, they talk about principles that are anti-Landauer.

536
00:47:04,206 --> 00:47:15,246
And then one of these guys is an anti-BIP110 guy when, if you look at the block wars, he was on our side, and now he's on the opposite side.

537
00:47:15,386 --> 00:47:20,106
And now he's on the side of financialization and securitization of Bitcoin.

538
00:47:21,006 --> 00:47:34,106
And when you begin to understand what's happening here, like why all of a sudden the change, the first changes that his money supported was SegWit and Taproot.

539
00:47:34,206 --> 00:47:41,346
Well, once those are in and that's done and said in 17, what's the next step?

540
00:47:41,446 --> 00:47:46,906
The next step is what happens with the ordinals and the runes protocol.

541
00:47:47,406 --> 00:48:00,826
Once that comes in, you know, I just saw that Hodlnott put something out the day that I got back from Prague that basically said one of the latest blocks that was done had 70% spam in it.

542
00:48:00,826 --> 00:48:02,486
And if you know anything about-

543
00:48:02,486 --> 00:48:04,026
No, the last week of blocks.

544
00:48:04,206 --> 00:48:07,826
The last week worth of blocks had 70% spam in them.

545
00:48:08,766 --> 00:48:08,966
Right.

546
00:48:09,086 --> 00:48:19,146
And you have to realize when you think about spam, kind of what the Landauer principle really tells you, it's really about capacity and block height size.

547
00:48:19,306 --> 00:48:21,266
But that's a bandwidth issue.

548
00:48:21,266 --> 00:48:26,546
And I don't want anybody to think that I don't understand these principles in Bitcoin because I do.

549
00:48:26,746 --> 00:48:31,486
I mean, we already know that there's not enough UTXO space for everybody in the world.

550
00:48:31,486 --> 00:48:37,246
So it's not like this problem didn't already exist in Satoshi's design.

551
00:48:37,606 --> 00:48:37,866
Okay.

552
00:48:38,026 --> 00:48:44,346
The problem is, is this has now been expanded by these Fabian maneuvers.

553
00:48:44,346 --> 00:49:05,806
And when you understand what the real problem is, the real diagnosis here is as UTXO explode, as the block space is filled with shit, it makes the efficiency thermodynamically of the proof of work mechanism worthless in the next 10, 20, 30, 40 years.

554
00:49:05,806 --> 00:49:21,906
So then what happens? Effectively, then you get Bitcoin as only digital gold, not as money, which is exactly what at least two of the Treasury CEOs are talking about publicly all the time.

555
00:49:22,326 --> 00:49:29,806
And when you understand that, that means there has to be a de facto CBDC being built by all the players.

556
00:49:29,806 --> 00:49:35,286
We know what it is in Europe because they're pretty obvious about it in Brussels, but in the United States, we're not.

557
00:49:35,286 --> 00:49:43,746
And it turns out that guy that showed up on the fucking stage in Bitcoin Nashville, Lutnick, is the fucking architect of the American CBDC.

558
00:49:43,946 --> 00:49:46,266
And that's going to be built through stable coins.

559
00:49:46,366 --> 00:49:50,046
Who was the person that clued me into this the earliest?

560
00:49:50,646 --> 00:49:53,246
It wasn't somebody who you may think.

561
00:49:53,286 --> 00:49:54,186
It was Hester Pierce.

562
00:49:54,186 --> 00:50:09,746
And she told us in 2020 that something very interesting was going on in Washington, D.C. with our other friend, Gary, who used to work for Biden, who used to teach about blockchain and Bitcoin at MIT.

563
00:50:09,746 --> 00:50:39,726
Okay. And she said, it seems like they're more interested in stable coins than anything else. So when Lutnick comes on the stage in 23, and you know that he's the primary broker dealer for U.S. Treasuries, and now he's building a regulatory system with Trump as the Commerce Secretary to make stable coins a sovereign wealth fund for the United States, you start to go, well, if you

564
00:50:39,746 --> 00:50:46,686
stop Bitcoin being used as money, then you can use stable coins as the de facto CBDC. And what's

565
00:50:46,686 --> 00:50:52,546
the event of the benefit that the Fabians get? That means they never face a congressional attack

566
00:50:52,546 --> 00:50:58,966
for the fourth amendment, which is privacy, which is the big impetus in the U S constitution

567
00:50:58,966 --> 00:51:05,086
to getting a CBDC. And since I've come home from Prague, Knut, one of the big things that you see

568
00:51:05,086 --> 00:51:12,146
all the politicians in Congress who are lying fucks talk about, we just made a CBDC impossible

569
00:51:12,146 --> 00:51:19,786
through law. Well, that's true. But what happens when U.S. money fails and they implode it and

570
00:51:19,786 --> 00:51:26,326
Bitcoin is ossified because it's filled with fucking spam, then something else has to be come

571
00:51:26,326 --> 00:51:31,106
in. And so what is it going to be? It's going to be another 2008 emergency. Oh, we have a problem.

572
00:51:31,106 --> 00:51:31,686
But guess what?

573
00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:38,206
One of our guys, Lutnick, did this 20 years ago, and we could use this.

574
00:51:38,306 --> 00:51:39,466
This works perfect.

575
00:51:40,366 --> 00:51:41,406
And guess what that means?

576
00:51:42,586 --> 00:51:48,906
Effectively, then, we have centralization in Bitcoin, and it happened without anybody's consent.

577
00:51:49,206 --> 00:51:51,786
And it happened without any consensus.

578
00:51:52,406 --> 00:51:57,586
And that is the ultimate issue with the Landau attack.

579
00:51:57,586 --> 00:52:09,623
That exactly what happened in medicine with the Flexner Report And you have to realize that the people at MIT in the physics and math department are the smartest fucking people in the world

580
00:52:10,043 --> 00:52:13,563
These are the people that talk to FIC

581
00:52:13,563 --> 00:52:15,763
and the industrial military complex.

582
00:52:16,183 --> 00:52:19,703
These are the people that power that speech

583
00:52:19,703 --> 00:52:23,243
that Eisenhower gave in January of 1960, okay?

584
00:52:23,683 --> 00:52:27,823
So just like the book The Art of War said

585
00:52:27,823 --> 00:52:29,583
when I told Marty Bent this famously,

586
00:52:29,663 --> 00:52:34,363
I said, you have to begin to think like your fucking enemies if you want to defeat them.

587
00:52:34,843 --> 00:52:37,503
And what was my big point at prod?

588
00:52:37,923 --> 00:52:42,163
That most Bitcoin toxic maximists don't even fucking see this attack.

589
00:52:42,423 --> 00:52:46,683
They see all the ones that people talk about, but they don't understand this.

590
00:52:46,723 --> 00:52:47,943
And I'm going to tell you the reason why.

591
00:52:48,043 --> 00:52:49,203
Neither do the core developers.

592
00:52:49,463 --> 00:52:56,123
Because the core developers are too fucking stupid to know the math and the physics of the Landar attack.

593
00:52:56,403 --> 00:52:57,863
Most big Bitcoiners don't.

594
00:52:57,863 --> 00:53:05,403
But I can tell you this, guys that are PhD aeronautical engineers and in cryptography, they fucking know it.

595
00:53:05,743 --> 00:53:08,343
It's impossible for them not to know it.

596
00:53:08,343 --> 00:53:19,063
And then when you realize that one of them did a 10-hour, seven-part podcast with Breedlove about the thermodynamics of Bitcoin, and you know what one thing didn't show up?

597
00:53:19,703 --> 00:53:21,723
The fucking Landauer principle.

598
00:53:22,463 --> 00:53:23,563
Explain that to me.

599
00:53:23,563 --> 00:53:32,763
Yeah, we heard the bullshit about airplanes landing with, you know, a broken hydraulic in the gate.

600
00:53:32,883 --> 00:53:37,163
And we know what that happens. Great. Like, give us the softball.

601
00:53:37,383 --> 00:53:47,983
But let's talk about this other problem. Let's talk about how this can go on and how you get on podcasts and tell us that ossification is OK.

602
00:53:47,983 --> 00:53:54,683
and how you tell us about, you know, when you die since you have no kids,

603
00:53:54,683 --> 00:53:58,563
you're just going to fucking burn your coins.

604
00:53:58,683 --> 00:53:59,283
Well, guess what?

605
00:53:59,383 --> 00:54:02,163
Canute, if everybody does that, what happens to fucking Bitcoin?

606
00:54:02,483 --> 00:54:03,823
It gets extincted.

607
00:54:04,663 --> 00:54:06,323
So let me just tell you something.

608
00:54:06,543 --> 00:54:08,643
Listen to them when they fucking talk to you.

609
00:54:08,983 --> 00:54:10,843
Listen, because they're telling you.

610
00:54:10,843 --> 00:54:16,423
Yeah, so I'd like to offer you my perspective on this

611
00:54:16,423 --> 00:54:19,963
and what I learned from this conversation.

612
00:54:20,703 --> 00:54:23,183
I mean, I was there in 2023 in Miami.

613
00:54:23,443 --> 00:54:25,443
I was on a certain person's yacht

614
00:54:25,443 --> 00:54:27,123
and met Bobby Kennedy briefly.

615
00:54:27,663 --> 00:54:31,223
So I've been in the middle of all this stuff as well,

616
00:54:31,663 --> 00:54:32,523
as you know.

617
00:54:32,923 --> 00:54:36,523
And back then, Bitcoiners were just enthusiastic

618
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:37,643
about the whole thing

619
00:54:37,643 --> 00:54:39,423
because all of a sudden...

620
00:54:39,423 --> 00:54:39,643
Not this Bitcoin.

621
00:54:40,423 --> 00:54:43,803
But what I wasn't enthusiastic about,

622
00:54:43,803 --> 00:54:45,263
which others were,

623
00:54:45,263 --> 00:54:48,543
not from a...

624
00:54:48,543 --> 00:54:51,143
So I was aware of spam

625
00:54:51,143 --> 00:54:54,423
and thought of it as a bigger problem

626
00:54:54,423 --> 00:54:56,623
than just clogging the UTXO set.

627
00:54:56,923 --> 00:54:59,843
Because from an Austrian economics perspective,

628
00:55:00,463 --> 00:55:02,883
use cases do not add value to money.

629
00:55:03,003 --> 00:55:04,623
They leak value from money.

630
00:55:04,983 --> 00:55:06,783
So if money has more use cases

631
00:55:06,783 --> 00:55:08,263
than just being a medium of exchange

632
00:55:08,263 --> 00:55:09,523
over space and time,

633
00:55:09,963 --> 00:55:13,323
that is of detriment to the money.

634
00:55:13,323 --> 00:55:16,003
So I could see it even from that perspective.

635
00:55:16,143 --> 00:55:17,763
So I think there I got things right.

636
00:55:18,043 --> 00:55:29,403
What I got wrong is that I thought the attack was from Bailey and his ilk, because I've already started, like, I already disliked Bitcoin Magazine and that conference.

637
00:55:29,923 --> 00:55:36,863
It turned out, I mean, they were Shitcoin Magazine for real for a while, and then they claimed to go back to their roots and be Bitcoin Magazine again.

638
00:55:36,863 --> 00:55:44,363
Let me explain to you how I see him, and then I'd like to hear your opinion on it.

639
00:55:44,363 --> 00:55:44,683
All right.

640
00:55:44,923 --> 00:55:47,463
Because I think your diagnosis is correct.

641
00:55:48,043 --> 00:55:56,763
So understand that in medicine, what happened was if you're going to keep a bullshit paradigm in power, you have to have media.

642
00:55:57,363 --> 00:55:58,663
So what's the media in medicine?

643
00:55:58,803 --> 00:55:59,323
It's journals.

644
00:55:59,323 --> 00:56:12,823
So the Maxwell family, Ghislaine and Robert, her dad, buy Pergamon Press and they control all the journals in medicine from 1960 all the way to 2026.

645
00:56:13,223 --> 00:56:19,083
So if you control the media, it gives coverage for the Fabians that are working behind the scenes.

646
00:56:19,083 --> 00:56:27,643
So my opinion is the reason that I couldn't give this talk in David Bailey's conference is because it would never be allowed.

647
00:56:27,643 --> 00:56:38,403
Okay, because they know what the game is and then realize that the magazine where some of the core developers write, they are also part of this grift.

648
00:56:38,763 --> 00:56:40,963
So, Bitcoin Magazine is the Maxwell.

649
00:56:41,143 --> 00:56:44,383
So, Bailey is the Maxwell of Bitcoin journalism, basically.

650
00:56:44,803 --> 00:56:45,043
Right.

651
00:56:45,263 --> 00:56:50,743
And I think several of the core devs I like to call Galane.

652
00:56:51,263 --> 00:56:51,503
Why?

653
00:56:51,643 --> 00:56:55,663
Because they're the front for this game that's going on.

654
00:56:55,663 --> 00:56:59,003
And the problem is Bitcoin maxis need to understand this.

655
00:56:59,183 --> 00:57:01,743
So I'm going to say something, Knute, that may shock you.

656
00:57:02,243 --> 00:57:05,423
I don't think that these core devs are bad people.

657
00:57:05,623 --> 00:57:09,763
I don't think that they know that they're being used the way they're being used.

658
00:57:10,223 --> 00:57:12,503
But I don't care what they think.

659
00:57:12,623 --> 00:57:18,343
I care what the plebs think and what the plebs do with the node selection that comes on August 5th.

660
00:57:18,343 --> 00:57:18,663
Why?

661
00:57:19,223 --> 00:57:24,123
Because we need to do something to stop this Trojan horse attack.

662
00:57:24,123 --> 00:57:39,003
That, to me, is the key thing. And I think what you and I can do as older Bitcoiners is we can argue on behalf of the newer guys to come in. What should be the teeth that we can add to BIP-110 down the road?

663
00:57:39,003 --> 00:57:49,963
I think they're, I'm working with a couple of people on that side now, and I think I found something that may help, but I'm not the technical guy.

664
00:57:50,043 --> 00:57:54,103
Remember, I'm the neurosurgeon that's a Bitcoiner that pays attention to this.

665
00:57:54,103 --> 00:58:10,203
So I need the math and physics guys and the coders to understand how can we put true Megalodon jaws in so that these fucking people never are able to finish this attack.

666
00:58:10,203 --> 00:58:12,223
Because this attack isn't finished yet.

667
00:58:12,623 --> 00:58:13,843
I want to be clear about this.

668
00:58:13,883 --> 00:58:15,303
That's why I spoke up at Prague.

669
00:58:15,303 --> 00:58:31,163
There's other parts of this attack that are coming, and that's where guys like that run Coinbase, Lutnik, and all of his crew, like that part of the attack has not come to pass yet because the regulations are big.

670
00:58:31,163 --> 00:58:46,203
Peter Thiel is a big part of this. The AI people are part of this. But where the tip of the spear for this happens, my opinion, probably 20, 25 years when we get the flip into the stablecoin CBDC.

671
00:58:46,203 --> 00:58:50,643
I think you guys in Europe will face it already from the digital euro.

672
00:58:50,963 --> 00:58:53,143
I think the Chinese will have the digital yuan.

673
00:58:53,663 --> 00:58:58,323
I think the Commonwealth countries will also be linked to the European story.

674
00:58:58,503 --> 00:59:02,823
The bottom line is centralization is coming.

675
00:59:03,123 --> 00:59:09,003
And the method that they're going to use to really finish the last part of the attack is AI.

676
00:59:09,003 --> 00:59:19,143
AI centralizes everything it touches, and it's critical and germane to what Lutnik is really doing behind the scenes.

677
00:59:19,483 --> 00:59:25,883
He is the architect, and he knows the insides and out of the U.S. Treasury market.

678
00:59:26,083 --> 00:59:30,643
Remember, he's the primary broker-dealer for the United States for a long time.

679
00:59:30,643 --> 00:59:37,683
So he knows not only the finance, but he also knows politically and a regulation way how to get it.

680
00:59:37,683 --> 00:59:43,143
And his main guy to help him do this is Palantir and Peter Thiel.

681
00:59:43,843 --> 00:59:48,783
That is the real game that we need to fight.

682
00:59:48,903 --> 00:59:56,223
And you have to remember, just because Ludnik says he owns Bitcoin, just because Peter Thiel says he owns Bitcoin, doesn't mean they're our fucking friends.

683
00:59:56,663 --> 00:59:56,923
Okay?

684
00:59:57,383 --> 00:59:59,883
And I think people need to wake up to that fact.

685
01:00:01,023 --> 01:00:01,623
Yeah, absolutely.

686
01:00:01,623 --> 01:00:02,103
Okay.

687
01:00:02,803 --> 01:00:07,583
So back to my view of Bailey and Bitcoin Magazine here.

688
01:00:07,583 --> 01:00:10,563
I thought they were the big bad enemy.

689
01:00:11,083 --> 01:00:19,063
And I thought that Bailey was just a big brown nose like interviewing or bringing Trump and other and FBI and shit up on stage.

690
01:00:19,163 --> 01:00:22,403
That it's just this anything goes mentality.

691
01:00:22,403 --> 01:00:27,103
And he's just a fiat maximalist who wants to scam everyone and take their money.

692
01:00:28,303 --> 01:00:29,963
High time preference guy.

693
01:00:29,963 --> 01:00:38,083
But if the problem is what you say, like it's so much deeper than the concern, I mean, then we have to save Bitcoin.

694
01:00:38,363 --> 01:00:56,540
What I would say is that BIP1 I don entirely agree with BIP110 being a shark without teeth I think it a shark with temporary teeth so that we can build the megalodon while we buy ourselves some time to think about what the mechagridsill

695
01:00:56,540 --> 01:00:58,260
megalodon looks like.

696
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Yeah, I don't disagree with that assessment.

697
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,480
I just want people to understand that I know that BIP-110 is flawed,

698
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,920
but it's as good as good has now, and I think it does buy us time

699
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,860
because what we need to do is kind of what Bukele did in El Salvador.

700
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:17,400
He got rid of the bad judges and got rid of the bad hombres, put them in Seacott.

701
01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:19,740
We need to do the same thing in Bitcoin.

702
01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:22,520
It doesn't mean we're going to throw some of these people in jail.

703
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,560
We just need to have some of these people replace Roger Ver as enemy number one to Bitcoin because they are.

704
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,340
What they're doing is worse than what Roger Ver ever did to us.

705
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Do you think Roger Ver was a Ludnik or was he just selfish and wanted to...

706
01:01:38,520 --> 01:02:05,880
No, he was selfish. I don't believe he was smart enough to know. But you want to know the truth? The people that are doing this attack now, they use Roger Ver. They absolutely used him. And I can tell you, I told you before we came on the podcast about that big tweet that I put out yesterday about the people that had that secret meeting before BIP 148 comes out. That's Silbert and Demors.

707
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:30,400
Let me just tell you something. Silbert and Demores absolutely were steering Roger Ver for the big block size. And I'm going to tell you the fact that they have both stepped out and now are working on the AI side. This is classic Fabianism where you thought you knew who they were, but then they step back and now they're doing something else. And what are they doing?

708
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:37,900
They're working hand in hand with Lutnick on the plan that executes it probably 20 years from now.

709
01:02:37,1000 --> 01:02:42,640
But you have to realize, you have to go back and understand the diagnosis.

710
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:46,020
See, this is what makes me being a neurosurgeon a little bit different.

711
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:50,820
Neurosurgeons are taught in medicine to think six steps ahead of everybody else.

712
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:58,400
And that's exactly what I'm trying to explain to you in this podcast, is that you have to understand the history of what happened in the past

713
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,980
to understand what the future Fabian attack is.

714
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:03,640
And this attack is ongoing right now.

715
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,500
You can see it right now.

716
01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:07,720
Like everybody knows about the spam issue,

717
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:12,880
but not everybody understands really what the game being played here is.

718
01:03:12,1000 --> 01:03:15,680
And it's about centralization of Bitcoin.

719
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,780
And I can tell you the biggest heroes in Bitcoin right now,

720
01:03:20,020 --> 01:03:24,160
because they buy so much Bitcoin and everybody keeps focusing on number go up.

721
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,060
That's not the issue.

722
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:28,180
You centralize Bitcoin, you effectively don't make it money.

723
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,040
You make it digital gold.

724
01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:35,200
And anybody who doesn't have their head up their ass knows exactly what the bankers did with digital gold and silver.

725
01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:37,440
They fucking manipulate it through paper.

726
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:47,280
So when I see somebody put a fucking orange dot out every time and say I'm going to buy Bitcoin, all that does is creates more paper for them to fucking control the price.

727
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:56,760
So when people come on podcasts and say out loud, well, if it wasn't for me buying all this Bitcoin, Bitcoin doesn't go to $126,000.

728
01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:58,180
I say fuck you.

729
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,160
That's bullshit.

730
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,220
Because I think it still goes up.

731
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:02,780
Why?

732
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:04,160
Because money is failing.

733
01:04:04,460 --> 01:04:06,560
The money is guaranteed to fail.

734
01:04:06,940 --> 01:04:08,580
So that's my point.

735
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:18,260
And I think that it's about time that people get their head out of their ass and stop kissing people's ass that shouldn't be kissed.

736
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:18,900
Yeah.

737
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,480
So you mentioned two people.

738
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,100
I mean, the other four.

739
01:04:22,220 --> 01:04:23,280
I'm interested in those.

740
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,200
Because you mentioned six people in the beginning.

741
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,580
so who are the

742
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:32,960
can you reveal anything more about the other

743
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,740
four what about the guy that is

744
01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:37,080
I think I did in the slides

745
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,940
unfortunately the slides that were deleted

746
01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:41,200
at Prague they had clear

747
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,180
ramifications of who

748
01:04:43,180 --> 01:04:44,900
the other four were

749
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:46,1000
so who's the one

750
01:04:46,1000 --> 01:04:48,700
who isn't fraudulent but

751
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:50,500
ignorant like

752
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:52,820
I mean he's a young guy

753
01:04:52,820 --> 01:04:54,1000
he's a young guy that's being

754
01:04:54,1000 --> 01:04:55,960
used by Lutnik

755
01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:57,140
Okay.

756
01:04:57,620 --> 01:04:57,900
Okay.

757
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:01,100
And the other three?

758
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,900
I'm fine with just doing hints here.

759
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,180
The other three are pretty simple to figure out.

760
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:10,500
You've already mentioned one.

761
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,980
The guy that executed the plan, he had his own little slide up.

762
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:22,520
He has ilk from the Epstein emails all the way tied to his last job at ChainLab.

763
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:25,300
And you know where ChainLab comes from.

764
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:27,220
So you could probably figure that out.

765
01:05:27,220 --> 01:05:27,600
Chain code labs?

766
01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:34,180
He's also the guy that posted the CSAM on Bitcoin that Matt Crowder has been talking about.

767
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,700
Wait, wait.

768
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,240
Are you talking about chain code labs?

769
01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:37,460
Yeah.

770
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,140
Okay.

771
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:40,440
You said chain labs, so I got confused.

772
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,300
But you mean chain code labs.

773
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:43,120
All right.

774
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:43,460
Correct.

775
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:43,700
Yeah.

776
01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:47,520
So Matt Crowder has been talking about that guy.

777
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,220
And the last guy should be blatantly obvious.

778
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Who supports the shitcoin casino?

779
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,280
One guy.

780
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:59,840
And it turns out one of the guys from MIT that's got this PhD or degree in engineering

781
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,480
He's a lot of his coins there

782
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,720
Yeah, okay

783
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,740
And I'll leave it up to your judgment

784
01:06:05,740 --> 01:06:12,640
I believe that my job, and remember, I hope you go back and listen to my speech at Prague what I said

785
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,700
I just did, like, before this

786
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:15,860
Okay, good

787
01:06:15,860 --> 01:06:21,840
I basically said, look, the point of an M&M conference is so that the doctor gets better

788
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,760
My point in Bitcoin is the same thing

789
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,360
I want to see Bitcoiners

790
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,020
Who I think are the doctors

791
01:06:29,020 --> 01:06:29,920
Or the node runners

792
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,640
I want to see them get better

793
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,500
And I think the way you get them better

794
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:36,600
Is you help them see the diagnosis you made

795
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,220
I paid a lot of money for the information

796
01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:41,760
That came up with this idea

797
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,200
Okay

798
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,400
And for me

799
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,200
This isn't about me

800
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:45,800
Okay

801
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,040
This is about my kids

802
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,800
And my lineage down the road

803
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,140
I don't want to see Bitcoin ossified

804
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,300
That's the reason I did what I did

805
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:56,420
And I came to the public

806
01:06:56,420 --> 01:06:59,880
To share with them what I found

807
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,220
And I want the plebs

808
01:07:02,220 --> 01:07:04,680
I want the plebs to do what Huddle Nut

809
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,660
What Luke and what Matthew Crowder are doing

810
01:07:08,660 --> 01:07:09,600
Same thing with you

811
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,400
When you put the BIP110 on your Twitter feed

812
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,960
You are announcing to the world that you understand

813
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,700
There is a problem in Bitcoin that we need to solve

814
01:07:20,700 --> 01:07:43,900
And what do we need to do as the immune system? Anytime these people say things that put them right in the line of fire of the Landauer principle, we hammer them. We make sure all the new people coming to Bitcoin understand who our enemies inside the gates are. Why? Because you can never solve the problem. That's what Bukele taught the world.

815
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:54,480
You can't fix your country when everybody gets killed here until you get rid of the corrupt judges and you get rid of the corrupt politicians and you put the gang members in jail.

816
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,080
Let me tell you, the same thing is true in Bitcoin.

817
01:07:57,540 --> 01:08:05,720
We don't stop this attack until we out the bad actors and we eliminate their ability.

818
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,380
Their names, in my view, are not important.

819
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:11,720
The actions of what they're doing are important.

820
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:23,200
Yeah, I mean, if there's anything, an underrated aspect of BIP-110 is just to show the community that minority softforks work.

821
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:27,440
Because if they don't, Bitcoin isn't Bitcoin anymore.

822
01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:31,280
Because what that means is that miners decide, not nodes.

823
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:34,760
And if that is true, then that is not Bitcoin.

824
01:08:34,940 --> 01:08:37,720
Just like Bitcoin Magazine is not about Bitcoin.

825
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,880
then it's just someone hijacking the name

826
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,700
like hijacking Bitcoin was ironically enough

827
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:46,080
Roger Ver's book's name

828
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,800
I've listened to parts of that

829
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,800
and I know I can debunk every single paragraph in it

830
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,860
and it's super easy

831
01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:55,820
because he doesn't know what he's talking about

832
01:08:55,820 --> 01:08:58,300
because anyone who thinks big blocks is a good idea

833
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:00,580
is an attacker, nothing else

834
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:02,960
because what they'd want to do is take over

835
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,640
they want the ability to control Bitcoin

836
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,660
And the whole point is that this is uncontrollable.

837
01:09:10,260 --> 01:09:16,740
This is, I mean, distributed authoritarianism, love the term.

838
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:21,280
I also love the, everyone says it's rules without rulers.

839
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:26,200
But just like people don't understand that winners write history, no one understands.

840
01:09:26,217 --> 01:09:28,417
understands what rules without rulers mean.

841
01:09:28,957 --> 01:09:33,297
That means that you set the rules for what you think Bitcoin is.

842
01:09:33,777 --> 01:09:38,597
And you pay the price for believing in whatever rules you think Bitcoin is.

843
01:09:38,777 --> 01:09:42,877
If you think Bitcoin cash is Bitcoin, if you thought that back in 2017,

844
01:09:43,497 --> 01:09:46,697
you can still think that your chain is worthless now.

845
01:09:47,137 --> 01:09:49,057
The real chain is worth more.

846
01:09:49,477 --> 01:09:52,697
And the same thing now, you can't fence it.

847
01:09:52,837 --> 01:09:54,477
This is not possible, really.

848
01:09:54,477 --> 01:09:55,897
You have to pick a side.

849
01:09:55,897 --> 01:09:58,757
You have to pick what you believe Bitcoin is.

850
01:09:59,577 --> 01:10:06,757
And if you're sitting on the side where you let others decide for you what Bitcoin means to you,

851
01:10:06,877 --> 01:10:11,997
then you've already lost because you're not a real Bitcoiner then.

852
01:10:12,077 --> 01:10:15,957
And I hate to say real Bitcoiner because who am I to say real Bitcoiner?

853
01:10:16,297 --> 01:10:22,537
But if you don't believe that you get to decide the rules, then you don't understand the game because you do.

854
01:10:22,537 --> 01:10:26,617
The thing is, the Ayn Rand quote still works.

855
01:10:26,877 --> 01:10:32,217
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

856
01:10:32,717 --> 01:10:38,497
And this is what happens if you pick the wrong Bitcoin as your definition of it.

857
01:10:38,497 --> 01:10:52,497
And right now, you can choose between Bitcoin full of spam and influenced by these bad actors, or you can choose Bitcoin with slightly tighter rules for a temporary period to try to fix the problem.

858
01:10:52,497 --> 01:10:56,757
And it's up to you whether you believe that will work or not.

859
01:10:57,197 --> 01:11:08,057
And your belief translated into software running on hardware, in other words, taking responsibility and being the full node that you already are.

860
01:11:08,597 --> 01:11:12,217
I mean, everyone on earth is a Bitcoin node in my opinion.

861
01:11:12,457 --> 01:11:14,757
It's just that most people don't act the part yet.

862
01:11:15,117 --> 01:11:17,597
They outsource all the decision making to others.

863
01:11:17,757 --> 01:11:19,597
But you are already a Bitcoin node.

864
01:11:19,597 --> 01:11:23,757
You just have to fucking grow up, grow some balls, and act the part.

865
01:11:26,117 --> 01:11:38,717
Without that, Bitcoin will suffer the same fate as everything that preceded it, meaning centralization, meaning that the worst people in the world end up controlling it.

866
01:11:38,977 --> 01:11:40,437
And we can't fucking have that.

867
01:11:41,357 --> 01:11:45,137
So BIP-110 is the only choice here, in my opinion.

868
01:11:45,577 --> 01:11:49,297
Your speech tells me you're my brother from another mother.

869
01:11:49,297 --> 01:11:53,137
I can't disagree with anything you just said.

870
01:11:53,237 --> 01:11:59,437
And I think the fact that, you know, we're about a week after Prague and we can have this podcast.

871
01:11:59,617 --> 01:12:04,737
Do I feel vindicated that I did my job on the stage of Prague?

872
01:12:04,817 --> 01:12:08,417
Because Canute completely gets what I said.

873
01:12:08,477 --> 01:12:09,757
And you want to know the truth?

874
01:12:09,977 --> 01:12:12,137
The truth is, Canute, that's why I went there.

875
01:12:12,137 --> 01:12:16,657
I went there to tell people, look, I want you to be aware of what's going on.

876
01:12:16,657 --> 01:12:19,277
You may not see it yet, but please pay attention.

877
01:12:19,297 --> 01:12:21,157
I've already made my decision.

878
01:12:21,157 --> 01:12:24,637
And, you know, even in the Twitter feed that I put out yesterday, you saw what I said.

879
01:12:24,837 --> 01:12:30,077
I've made my decision that that actually is axiomatic to what you just said, that once

880
01:12:30,077 --> 01:12:34,317
your N equals one is LinkedIn, that is your version of Bitcoin.

881
01:12:34,597 --> 01:12:53,576
It doesn matter what anybody else does If they want to do Bitcoin Cash or BSV or whatever the fuck else they want to do great But my job is to do what I did And I was given an opportunity by two Bitcoiners that I know that I would have never been given this opportunity if it had been Nashville or Vegas

882
01:12:53,816 --> 01:12:53,896
No.

883
01:12:54,096 --> 01:12:54,896
There's no chance.

884
01:12:55,276 --> 01:12:56,416
Because they're not Bitcoiners.

885
01:12:56,976 --> 01:12:57,436
Right.

886
01:12:57,656 --> 01:12:58,436
They're shitcoiners.

887
01:12:58,496 --> 01:12:59,516
And we all know that.

888
01:12:59,736 --> 01:13:02,196
And they support shitcoin people.

889
01:13:02,196 --> 01:13:10,436
And you have to realize that that DNA, that diagnosis is also easy to see because we see it in the president's behavior.

890
01:13:10,956 --> 01:13:12,036
We see it in his family.

891
01:13:12,796 --> 01:13:19,096
We see it not only that, but in the person running the Bitcoin conference in the United States.

892
01:13:19,656 --> 01:13:24,296
All you have to do is take a look at that stock and see how that goes.

893
01:13:24,936 --> 01:13:29,976
To me, this is one of the most easy diagnoses to make as a neurosurgeon.

894
01:13:29,976 --> 01:13:34,996
I'm just stunned that the people in Bitcoin don't fucking get it.

895
01:13:35,416 --> 01:13:38,516
I'm so stunned by the Bailey shit show, by the way.

896
01:13:38,596 --> 01:13:43,676
They had literal fucking feds on stage while the samurai people are still in jail.

897
01:13:44,316 --> 01:13:48,856
And Ross Ulbricht was on stage thanking Trump for his release.

898
01:13:49,296 --> 01:13:53,656
Trump, who didn't release him the last four years he was president.

899
01:13:54,256 --> 01:13:56,876
So he's part of the problem, for fuck's sake.

900
01:13:57,036 --> 01:13:59,156
Like, it's Stockholm Syndrome all over.

901
01:13:59,156 --> 01:14:06,196
And simping for politicians, that's the most anti-Bitcoin thing I can think of.

902
01:14:06,696 --> 01:14:08,576
It's just revolting to me.

903
01:14:08,696 --> 01:14:13,176
Anyway, you say that you were censored on Natalie's pod.

904
01:14:13,296 --> 01:14:16,116
I don't know why, and I'm friends with Natalie.

905
01:14:16,376 --> 01:14:18,916
I hope she isn't compromised by any of this.

906
01:14:19,456 --> 01:14:22,936
I hope she had good reason to do that, some other fucking reason.

907
01:14:23,076 --> 01:14:24,516
I can't think what that is.

908
01:14:25,116 --> 01:14:26,896
I will not censor.

909
01:14:27,076 --> 01:14:28,356
That's not what I do.

910
01:14:29,156 --> 01:14:54,276
The opposite. I hope I'm, I will not let fear dictate my actions. I've had too many near-death experiences to ever let fear dictate my actions. I know that I want to, whenever I go, I want to do it with dignity. And I want to be honest. So, so fuck it. The people need to hear this and they need to know the magnitude of the problem.

911
01:14:54,276 --> 01:14:57,956
they also need to do their own research

912
01:14:57,956 --> 01:14:59,916
they shouldn't take your word for it

913
01:14:59,916 --> 01:15:01,376
they should look into it themselves

914
01:15:01,376 --> 01:15:04,016
a good place to start I'd say

915
01:15:04,016 --> 01:15:05,536
is Hodlunaut's articles

916
01:15:05,536 --> 01:15:08,076
explaining what happened with Bitcoin Core

917
01:15:08,076 --> 01:15:10,216
explaining what happened

918
01:15:10,216 --> 01:15:14,816
what started when Bitcoin Core got outside funding

919
01:15:14,816 --> 01:15:17,756
and they weren't just developing Bitcoin software

920
01:15:17,756 --> 01:15:21,776
because they wanted to secure their stacks

921
01:15:21,776 --> 01:15:30,276
which is, I think, a much better incentive for a Bitcoin core developer is to believe in the project than have outside funding.

922
01:15:31,116 --> 01:15:38,496
So before we close this out, though, is there anywhere on the Internet that you would like to send our listeners to?

923
01:15:38,896 --> 01:15:42,516
Where can they find your stuff? Where can they find other interesting stuff?

924
01:15:42,636 --> 01:15:44,876
Where can they do their own research about all of this?

925
01:15:44,876 --> 01:16:02,275
Well I think every day I think if you follow my Twitter account you going to learn a lot about decentralized medicine and decentralized money because that all I post about What went down in Bitcoin Prague if you interested in that I put a Patreon blog out

926
01:16:02,275 --> 01:16:08,235
about that. My Patreon is, you know, the cost of a cup of coffee a month. Okay. I make it very

927
01:16:08,235 --> 01:16:17,315
simple for people to look at, but my website also is free. If you sign up, it's jackcruise.com.

928
01:16:17,315 --> 01:16:47,295
I have a form on there. On the form, there's parts that are just all Bitcoin, all geopolitics. Then there's a lot. Most of it, I'd say, is about decentralized medicine. And I think if anybody wants to know about books and things that I have read that talked about the history that you and I talked about early in this podcast, because to be honest with you, that's most of what was in the Natalie Brunel podcast that she wanted not anybody to hear, which I think is kind of ironic.

929
01:16:47,315 --> 01:16:49,175
because I think it is important.

930
01:16:49,455 --> 01:16:51,795
And I don't think that that's new information.

931
01:16:51,795 --> 01:16:56,175
I've done hundreds, and I mean hundreds of podcasts,

932
01:16:56,415 --> 01:16:59,135
not only on decentralized medicine, but also on Bitcoin.

933
01:16:59,415 --> 01:17:02,075
So you can listen to the things that I've said.

934
01:17:02,235 --> 01:17:05,775
You'll find out that my discussion about this topic

935
01:17:05,775 --> 01:17:08,815
that me and Canute talked about is very consistent.

936
01:17:09,275 --> 01:17:12,035
Listen to what I said to Breedlove about this.

937
01:17:12,175 --> 01:17:13,935
Listen to what I said to Marty about this.

938
01:17:14,555 --> 01:17:17,155
Listen to when I'm talking to other Bitcoiners

939
01:17:17,155 --> 01:17:22,935
about this issue with government, I have never been a fan of Lutnick.

940
01:17:22,935 --> 01:17:29,295
And that goes all the way back to his link to 9-11 and also his link to Jeffrey Epstein.

941
01:17:29,555 --> 01:17:32,075
They're neighbors in New York City, okay?

942
01:17:32,275 --> 01:17:37,295
And it's clear he's lied about his relationship with Epstein.

943
01:17:37,735 --> 01:17:42,075
If a person is going to lie one time about something like that,

944
01:17:42,115 --> 01:17:43,855
they're going to lie multiple times.

945
01:17:44,115 --> 01:17:45,915
And there's a reason they're lying.

946
01:17:45,915 --> 01:18:02,995
And when that person gets carded on the stage and they become the Commerce Secretary, almost became the Treasury Secretary, I think that Bitcoiners need to fucking put Windex on their glass eyes and realize it's not about number go up.

947
01:18:03,175 --> 01:18:10,175
It's about the state of Bitcoin forever for all of our kids and our lineages down the road.

948
01:18:10,315 --> 01:18:13,375
That's the reason why we have to fight.

949
01:18:13,375 --> 01:18:16,875
I look at this argument that I'm making for you.

950
01:18:16,955 --> 01:18:20,915
It's very similar to the guy that put the trees right there in the back of my house.

951
01:18:21,555 --> 01:18:23,335
Like, I wasn't here when he did that.

952
01:18:23,775 --> 01:18:30,295
But I'm getting the benefit of that now because they put those nuts in the ground, the seeds in the ground.

953
01:18:30,295 --> 01:18:44,335
I think what I did at Prague and what I'm doing here with Canute, Canute has given me the opportunity to say, what the hell did you really say to Natalie that was so bad that it had to be censored?

954
01:18:44,435 --> 01:18:48,315
Well, listen to this podcast because it's almost an exact duplicate.

955
01:18:48,735 --> 01:18:50,295
And I don't know why that's controversial.

956
01:18:51,075 --> 01:18:51,315
Why?

957
01:18:51,615 --> 01:18:56,735
Maybe because it paints some of the people that she's friendly with in a bad light.

958
01:18:57,035 --> 01:18:58,475
Maybe that's the real issue.

959
01:18:58,515 --> 01:18:59,155
I don't know.

960
01:18:59,155 --> 01:19:03,315
That's something maybe you could ask her about in follow-up.

961
01:19:03,615 --> 01:19:15,573
But the bottom line is Bitcoiners should know this There nobody in the media you should trust when it comes to Bitcoin What you should do is trust yourself by doing your own due diligence

962
01:19:16,113 --> 01:19:18,713
And I fully agree with what Knut said.

963
01:19:19,053 --> 01:19:22,233
You shouldn't trust the damn thing that comes out of my mouth either.

964
01:19:22,653 --> 01:19:24,253
You should do your own homework.

965
01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:28,953
What was my job is to go to Prague and tell you what I found.

966
01:19:29,133 --> 01:19:30,333
And that's what I did.

967
01:19:30,953 --> 01:19:31,473
Fantastic.

968
01:19:31,993 --> 01:19:33,893
And yeah, I couldn't agree more.

969
01:19:33,893 --> 01:19:41,253
this is why I fell in love with this community in the first place because bitcoiners were all that

970
01:19:41,253 --> 01:19:46,533
way at one point during the block size wars the the real ones you could tell because we weren't

971
01:19:46,533 --> 01:19:52,933
afraid of slaying our heroes we weren't afraid of speaking truth to power that that was that was all

972
01:19:52,933 --> 01:19:59,613
bitcoin is the bitcoin community the the day that that is not true anymore is the day that bitcoin

973
01:19:59,613 --> 01:20:02,013
dice. We literally and metaphorically

974
01:20:02,013 --> 01:20:03,733
are the network, so we should

975
01:20:03,733 --> 01:20:04,893
start acting the part.

976
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:07,713
I think that's a

977
01:20:07,713 --> 01:20:09,373
good note to end on.

978
01:20:09,813 --> 01:20:11,873
Go follow Dr. Jack Cruz

979
01:20:11,873 --> 01:20:13,733
on X and wherever

980
01:20:13,733 --> 01:20:15,633
else and read

981
01:20:15,633 --> 01:20:17,533
all the things. Read Hodlodnot's articles

982
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:18,893
to begin with

983
01:20:18,893 --> 01:20:21,073
and go listen to

984
01:20:21,073 --> 01:20:22,733
Jack's other stuff,

985
01:20:23,273 --> 01:20:25,313
the other pods,

986
01:20:25,573 --> 01:20:26,933
the longer format ones,

987
01:20:27,733 --> 01:20:28,913
and run BIP110.

988
01:20:28,913 --> 01:20:34,453
10, get a start 9 or something and start running Noughts and upgrade to the latest version.

989
01:20:34,613 --> 01:20:35,973
I mean, this isn't that hard.

990
01:20:36,253 --> 01:20:40,793
You can always become a bit more of a Bitcoiner.

991
01:20:41,273 --> 01:20:44,433
There's always a way to act the part a bit more.

992
01:20:45,393 --> 01:20:47,153
Everyone's a node, act the part.

993
01:20:47,153 --> 01:20:51,733
I guess that's, I already said that, but it's a good note to end on, I think.

994
01:20:52,053 --> 01:20:57,013
Thank you very much, Jack, for having this conversation with me.

995
01:20:57,013 --> 01:20:59,973
I hope to see you in El Salvador in November

996
01:20:59,973 --> 01:21:01,373
and we could have a longer chat

997
01:21:01,373 --> 01:21:03,913
I have some older video material

998
01:21:03,913 --> 01:21:06,253
that I made that I think is right up your alley

999
01:21:06,253 --> 01:21:08,073
Yoni Appleberg's

1000
01:21:08,073 --> 01:21:09,973
YouTube channel is where you find them

1001
01:21:09,973 --> 01:21:11,733
we made some animations together

1002
01:21:11,733 --> 01:21:12,953
comparing

1003
01:21:12,953 --> 01:21:15,593
Satoshi to Robert Oppenheimer

1004
01:21:15,593 --> 01:21:17,993
just being each other's

1005
01:21:17,993 --> 01:21:19,733
mirrors but

1006
01:21:19,733 --> 01:21:21,313
opposite, like they both

1007
01:21:21,313 --> 01:21:23,753
harness the power of physics to change

1008
01:21:23,753 --> 01:21:25,233
human incentive structures

1009
01:21:25,234 --> 01:21:32,813
There's one about 1914 and World War I being the consensus mechanism of fiat being world wars.

1010
01:21:33,333 --> 01:21:38,913
And there's one about Bitcoin being a weightless element, element zero, the informational element.

1011
01:21:39,133 --> 01:21:40,833
I think you really like that one.

1012
01:21:41,033 --> 01:21:44,573
It's well in line with the Landauer principle for sure.

1013
01:21:45,253 --> 01:21:50,093
But yeah, till we meet again, enjoy the rest of summer.

1014
01:21:50,513 --> 01:21:53,533
If it's summer in El Salvador, it's always summer in El Salvador.

1015
01:21:53,873 --> 01:21:55,173
But anyway, yeah.

1016
01:21:55,234 --> 01:21:56,153
Take care.

1017
01:21:56,753 --> 01:21:57,413
Take care.

1018
01:21:58,153 --> 01:21:59,793
This has been the Bitcoin Infinity Show.

1019
01:22:00,273 --> 01:22:01,593
Like, subscribe, and brush your teeth.

1020
01:22:01,813 --> 01:22:05,773
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1021
01:22:06,053 --> 01:22:07,853
And yeah, till next time.

1022
01:22:07,893 --> 01:22:08,234
Bye-bye.

1023
01:22:08,693 --> 01:22:09,313
Thanks for listening.