Javier Milei: Bringing Bitcoin to Argentina? With Ariel Aguilar - FFS #70

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have to put all the efforts in orange-pilling Milei all through these

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months They are going to be critical, they are going to be very painful months.

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They're going to try to destroy him.

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think that the left.

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they try to get him out of office, for him to resign, to point the finger that

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all the problems are his fault, When actually he's fixing things, right?

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He's making the problem go away.

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Argentina has a cancer right now it's only been growing and growing and growing

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and now it's the time to take it out.

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To suffer the going through the medical procedure, but after that you're

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healed, you can start to recover.

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Welcome back to the Freedom Footprint show with Knut Svanholm and me, Luke

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the Pseudo Finn, and today we're joined by Ariel Aguilar, a Bitcoin evangelist,

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goes by Bitcoin Evangelista on Twitter.

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And you might've seen him driving across Europe as one half of La Bitcoineta,

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yeah, this great big Bitcoin van.

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There's viral picture of Michael Saylor from BTC Prague sitting in the van.

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It's very cool.

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But anyway, he's, uh, he's here today to tell us a bit about the

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economic situation in Argentina.

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And we're recording this just after the Javier Mil eiin the

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Argentinian presidential election.

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So it's a very topical episode today.

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So Ariel, welcome to the Freedom Footprint show.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Well, thank you guys.

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It's pleasure to be here, Knut and Luke.

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So yeah, I'm in Buenos Aires right now.

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I have lived through the elections.

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Milei has won the first libertarian president in history,

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all around the world actually.

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And ran with a libertarian anarcho capitalist campaign.

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of uh, reducing the size of the government, lowering taxes, well, actually

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like voucher systems for education and health care, so, so, so yeah, it's

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amazing, the rise of Millet, we're gonna be discussing this because I've known

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him for Since before he was famous, it's quite funny that 2014 or around

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that year, he became a libertarian.

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Before that, he wasn't a libertarian.

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He was more like a monetarist from the Chicago school, right?

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He discovered Rothbard and other Austrian economic authors.

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And ever since then, he's been doing, uh, proof of work, like constantly going to

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TV shows, universities, colleges, giving speeches, traveling all around Argentina,

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then to Latin America countries as well, and teaching people about Austrian

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economics, libertarianism, capitalism, so it's quite a character, I know

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you've seen videos of him, you really should go And it's also another amazing

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aspect of this is that he has run the cheapest political campaign in history.

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He hasn't spent money on ads.

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The he had worked in government, he was minister of economics.

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And use a lot of state resources to put billboards all around to

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have the government employees uh, pushing the official candidate.

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And Milei only had like an army of people on Twitter and social

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media, working for him for free, like, uh, pushing, making memes.

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So, so it's funny that, uh, they say that kind of teenagers on Twitter.

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Political campaign and he won.

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So it's amazing.

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It's the most voted candidate in ARG history.

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He got around 56, no, 55.6%, 0.7%.

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So we can run it up for uh, 56% votes.

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No candidate in history has got, uh, so high.

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Yeah, it's truly remarkable that a character like this can win an election

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anywhere, and it's absolutely fantastic.

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Now, he can certainly talk the talk.

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The question is, can he walk the walk?

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I mean, do you think that he will deliver on his promises, or

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is he just another politician?

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I have a hard time trusting politicians in general, but these...

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This, this guy seems like the world's first anti politician politician.

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Right.

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Well, yeah.

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We'll have to see through the CEOs and months.

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Argentina is a quite difficult country.

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It's been conquered by unions, by businessmen that we like to

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call them like dinosaurs, right?

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Because they are entrenched with the politicians, they ask for regulations and

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for, for example, for many, many decades, the ethos or the culture in Argentina

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was to do a import substitution, like prohibiting the importation of goods.

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building national products.

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So, for example, through the sixties, seventies, eighties,

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the same cars were being produced all throughout those decades.

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Like the same car that was sold in 1967 was manufactured in 1989.

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Right.

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and the economy in Argentina was quite closed.

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So up until this day.

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What they teach you in school and in college is that we have

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to live with what is ours.

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We have to live with Argentine production and we have to

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keep the foreign things away.

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So, so Argentina is quite isolated.

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It's a country where right now, You cannot do international wire transfers.

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I cannot go to a bank and say, Hey, I want to send 1, 000 to America or to Europe.

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You cannot do it.

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Right?

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You have to be an exporter.

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And right now the situation is so bad that even exporters or people that were

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doing importation, sorry, imports, the government told them, Hey, we don't

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have the dollars for you to wire abroad.

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Get financing outside or make your supplier finance you for

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six months or nine months.

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That we're going to pay you in the future and right now the central bank

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is 25 billion in debt because of that, of payments that need to go to China,

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to the United States or Europe, and the central bank does not have that money.

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It's broke.

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It's a net negative.

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It's when you take all the liabilities, the situation is quite dire.

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And fortunately, we hope that Milei will tell the Argentine people the

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situation when he goes into power.

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He's going to become president officially on December 10th.

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So we are only like 20 days away from that.

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transition has to go very fast, but the next few months are going

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to be quite painful, I say, and going to your question, Knut, about

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if he's going to deliver or not.

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One of the things that's going on is that Milei doesn't have a structure behind him,

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like to support him and all the people that are needed to fill all the roles in

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even didn't have like a political party.

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He didn't even have.

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The structure that you need to oversee the elections in Argentina,

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we do elections with ballots and on each table that needs to be like the

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president of the voting table, plus overseers from each political party.

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And there are like 100, 000 tables where you people go to vote.

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So you need 100, 000 people to go and take care of your boats, right?

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Because otherwise they make fraud and they steal the boats.

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So when he got into the Valotage, which is the rerun of election, you

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have to choose between the first and the second melee, it was second place.

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a previous president from 1950, no, sorry, 2015 to 2019, offered melee,

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uh, to help like, uh, becoming his like godfather and granting him the, all

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the overseers from his political party.

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And the woman that was third in, in the elections, uh, Malay

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had totally bashed her, right?

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Malay had accused her.

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of being a terrorist in the 70s, of putting bombs in kindergartens,

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right, because terrorists used to do that in Argentina back in the 70s.

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And even though Milei was, I mean, so strong against her,

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she chose to help him anyways.

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And so she went publicly and declared to please, we have to support Millet,

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not the, Massa, which was in number one position in the first election.

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And so all the support from the previous president, from this woman,

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Patricia, And for many sectors, it got him to where he is now.

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Otherwise, this election, they would have stolen all the votes.

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and yeah, we will have more, uh, we call it Kirchnerismo.

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Kirchnerism is the, the, the ruling class that has been ruling Argentina

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for the last almost 20 years.

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And Argentina was going to continue on its decline.

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Right now, the average salary of an Argentine is like 200 a month.

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the situation is very tense.

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You can see it on people's faces.

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they are not able to afford rent.

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they are not able to afford food.

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they're not even able then to have any savings left after

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paying for rent and food, right?

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So, so, and, and all and the expectations or what Argentine have

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been living through the past million months is that every month that comes

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is worse than the previous month.

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So, it's quite I mean, for a European or an American, I believe, it's quite

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difficult to imagine how it is life when you, for the last 20 years, every

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year is worse than the previous year.

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I believe that it's not life or life shouldn't be like that.

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Well, unfortunately, most people are about to find out in the West, I guess.

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as we see more and more currencies hyperinflating, I mean, inflation is

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just a slow-mo version of hyperinflation.

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I mean, all the fiat currencies are on the same path and it's horrible.

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And you see these mainstream media outlets here, people calling, him far

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right extremist, that's, like everywhere, and they're calling him a mini Trump,

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they're calling him, an anti-abortionist They're calling him a climate denier,

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all of these things, and none of them seem, to focus on what's actually the

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pain in Argentina, which is the inflating currency, hyperinflating currency.

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Like these people are, are, this is not a game.

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they're, losing their livelihoods fast.

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and as you say, every month is worse So, so, but you know, mainstream media gets it

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wrong always, but in this case, it's just, borderlining vulgar to see them, call

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him, call him names No wonder he gets 56 percent because people are very tired of

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the, socialism, I guess, in the country.

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Of course, I mean, the young people that were born in the year 2000, 2003,

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they haven't experienced anything but inflation all throughout their lives.

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Argentina only had a like price stability from the year 92 till the end of 2001.

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there was like a sort of like a tether, like AUS CT that the government did.

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It was called convertibility, and what it meant was that in order to print a

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peso, the government had to have savings of $1, either in dollars or bonds of

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the United States in the Central bank.

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Right.

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And that allowed the government to print one peso.

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I should have one of those bills here.

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I like to always carry all bills of Argentina in my pocket

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because we've destroyed five different currencies so far.

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when we did this one, which is peso convertible, it says it there?

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Convertible.

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This was the only time that we had stability in Argentina.

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In total, we've taken out 13 zeros out of all the five different currencies.

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The history is a monetary disaster.

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I mean, the first time we killed a currency was in 1970.

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And we took out two zeros out of that, and it became this one, which

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is called Peso ley This one lasted 13 years until 1983, and we took

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out four zeros out of this one.

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So there were bills of one million pesos with this guy, and we took

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out four zeros, so 10, 000 of these became 1 peso argentino.

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An Argentine peso, and this one we destroyed in two years, from 83 to 85.

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So the whole country had to change currencies for only two years of life.

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And then, when I was born, they launched this one, which was called the Austral and

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at the beginning it was worth more than 1.

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Dollar So, 83 cents of this got you 1.

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dollar And seven years later, you needed 10, 000 Australs to get the same dollar.

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And when that exchange rate got to 10, 000 to 1, that's when

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they launched the convertible.

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The tenor, right?

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This one suddenly exploded at the end of 2001.

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Right now, I think I have one of these here.

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Let me see.

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1 1 dollar is 1, 000, right?

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And the highest denomination bill currently, I don't

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have it here, is 2, 000.

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Pesos So the biggest that you can pay is 2.

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dollars That's it, right?

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So people have to carry A stash of cash in order to pay things with cash.

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It's a disaster.

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The government does not want to recognize inflation, and that's the

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reason why they don't print 10, 000 pesos, 20, 000, 50, 000 pesos notes.

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which would be required to make easier payments, right?

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And now we are in a position where we could take out three more zeros.

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So we can take this, uh, a thousand, take out three zeros, become the new one.

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But Milei is running on a campaign of dollarization.

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He believes that in order for, to prevent future governments returning to this money

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printing and debasement of the currency.

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He, he believes that we have proven ourselves to be unsuitable

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to have our own currency.

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it's only, a money theft machine, the central bank of Argentina.

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It's funny that when you enter the door of the central bank, there used

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to be, A big phrase on the top of the central bank that said that this

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institution is here to protect the savings of the Argentine people.

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And all it has done throughout the years since 1935 was to destroy value, to create

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poverty, and to distribute the wealth from the poor to the people at the top, right?

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So Milei wants to end that.

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He pushes for dollarization.

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So some Bitcoiners will say, Oh, he's a shit coiner.

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Right?

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But the thing is, in a certain way, Argentinians have a

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lot of savings in dollars.

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There are some calculations that estimate that Argentina is the third largest

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holder of cash US dollars in the world.

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So there's like United States.

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I don't remember who was number second, if it was Mexico or if it was Russia,

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I don't know which country it was.

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But Argentina comes in third in cash holdings, and people are holding

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that in the mattress, under the mattress, all in the black, right?

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Non declared dollars.

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It should be a number upwards of 200 billion in cash hidden.

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So on one side, Milei is counting on that money coming

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out and going into the economy.

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And on the other side, he's also pushing for monetary freedom.

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And that is where Bitcoin comes in Because he has given talks to

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businessmen, and he has said, I do not care what currency you use, you can make

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contracts if you want, in soybeans, if you want you can do it in barrels of

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oil, if you want you can do it in BTUs of energy, like if you want to settle

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the prices in BTUs of energy, do that.

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So I believe Bitcoin is gonna fall in that.

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And he's, well, there are many talks going on around in Twitter you can

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watch where he explains why Bitcoin and he defines it as a private money.

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And, uh, in my particular case, I have a history of, well, meeting Malay quite

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early on, eh, I have conversations with him on, on Facebook, right?

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Where at the beginning he wasn't known.

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Like back in 2014, we, we became Facebook friends.

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And at that time I realized he was going to become somebody, right?

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He was starting to be an interesting guy.

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So I had a Bitcoin talk I did in October 2014.

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It's still on YouTube if you want to go watch it.

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has like 25, 000 views or so.

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And I sent him the link.

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To the talk and I said, Hey, Javier, you, you need to learn about this, right?

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And, and he replied, oh, that's great.

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Please send me the PowerPoint presentation to my email.

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Right?

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I want to learn more about it.

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And Melay back then, he was a chief economist of a private corporation,

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that handles the Argentine airports, the uh, uh, uh, TV channel, one of the

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main TV channels of Argentina, right?

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That all this corporation is called Corporation America.

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Is run by an Armenian guy, Ian, and well, mil was one of his,

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uh, top economist advisors.

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And right at that moment, Milei told me, uh, my boss wants to invest, right?

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And he told me 800 m and I said 800 MM is for millions, right?

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And I thought this guy was crazy because back then the Bitcoin price was, I

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don't know, 300, 400 per Bitcoin.

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It would have meant like a purchase of like 2 million

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Bitcoins or 3 million Bitcoins.

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An impossible purchase to make, right?

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It would have changed the whole history of the Bitcoin praxe action.

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And so I never follow up on that.

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I thought this guy is crazy.

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Some people watch him and say, this guy's crazy, right?

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And so I thought the same.

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I mean, I left the conversation there.

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I didn't follow up or kept a, I never sent him the PPT, right?

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The presentation.

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and during the years.

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I met him many times in conferences, and I've tried to orange-pill him, right?

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I've tried to, gauge his knowledge of Bitcoin, because he doesn't run deep.

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He won't know what a hash function is and how the self adjusting mechanism

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for the difficulty of Bitcoin, right?

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All of that, I don't believe he knows that.

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So he does not know why Bitcoin is better to other cryptocurrencies.

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That's my main worry.

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And when you try to go deep with him on these topics, after two

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minutes, he will say, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bitcoin is private money.

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And I am all in for private money.

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That's like all I need to know.

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Right?

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And he goes off to something else.

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So, I believe his take on the subject is that he wants to give monetary freedom,

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and so if we want to use Bitcoin or crypto for him, I guess it's the same.

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So I believe there's still a lot of work to be done to show him

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why Bitcoin is superior, right?

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Why Bitcoin is better.

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And so that, yeah, he doesn't squander it, or there's also like a...

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A dark side or a dark aspect to him, I would say that because some Bitcoiners

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have pointed this out in the past, he has gotten money from shitcoins

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or perhaps even Ponzi schemes, right?

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To promote, like to make a photo and a greeting, right?

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meeting the Coinex team.

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It's a sad thing.

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Yeah, you can look this up.

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And after a few months, CoinEx explodes, um, to let us, I don't

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know, a pump and dump or disappears.

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And all the people are, uh, yeah, lose all their savings in that.

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And theMilei t tries to, well, detach himself from that, right?

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In public.

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But it's a sad thing to, to watch.

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And I hope that it does not repeat.

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so, so yeah, I mean, the future for Argentina, I believe it's

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the best option possible.

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What happened?

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Melee winning.

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Otherwise, Argentina would have continued on this path of, going

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downhill and the salaries even going lower, like from 200 to a hundred.

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To 50.

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And then you become Venezuela and then you become Cuba, right?

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So right now, this process of dollarization, he's trying to push a,

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we will have to see how it unfolds.

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And also if he gets support from, from, I know the United States, so if he gets

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support from the IMF, because depending on how much, many dollars he can get

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from this, Financial institutions is how much suffering the Argentines are going

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to go through in the next few months.

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It's not going to be the same if he gets 10 billion or if he gets 100 billion.

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Because that, at one moment, the government is going to have to say,

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okay, this is the exchange rate.

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When they did this in the year 92, and the exchange rate got up to 10, 000 to

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1, so right now we are in 1, 000 to 1, so we don't know if this exchange rate

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is going to be 2, 000 pesos to 1, 5, 000 or 10, 000, 10, 000 pesos to 1, 000,

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so That is going to mean a very large devaluation, a very large impoverishment,

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and a lot of pain, but the thing is, I also believe that that is necessary.

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It's a painful process where you get rid of the problem of inflation, you pay

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all the debts, everything gets settled.

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Then you can restart.

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So perhaps salaries do go to $50 per month for the average worker,

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but after that it's all upside, it's all uphill, it's all okay.

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Then you go from 50 to 75, then you go from to se from 75 to 100 to 200.

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And eventually we can become a normal country again, where salaries used

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to be a thousand dollars in 2017.

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Uh, and it's going to be a, a quite interesting experience.

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Similar to perhaps what El Salvador is living through, that

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the country starts to grow again.

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All right.

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Uh, yeah, this is so interesting.

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I have so many questions and so many things on my mind now, but like, let's

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get, let's get back to the orange pilling of melee a bit later, but there's a

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couple of things I know that, uh, from the immediate criticisms I see on Twitter

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of melee and from other sources as well.

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Like, uh, One thing is that he's on the IMF's, uh, uh, web page.

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Or I think it's the World Economic Forum.

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No, no, not the IMF, the, the WEF, sorry for that.

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Uh, and there's, there's another thing he's, he's want, he wants to, to stop

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cooperating with, China and Brazil, right?

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He wants to, to, to end all that and leave, leave the BRICS thing.

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And he's pro U, very pro US, obviously, because he wants the

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dollar rise and pro and Israel, which he gets a lot of flack for as well.

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What are your comments on that?

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Well, on one side, he says that he doesn't want to deal with

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communist countries, right?

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He's on the pro liberty side.

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But at the same time, he also says that That's at the government

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level, but he will never interfere with private individuals trying to

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do commerce with anybody, right?

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So if a private individual or company wants to do commerce with China,

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he has no problem with it, right?

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But yeah, so his answer is at the state level.

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Well, that's great.

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In that case, there's no embargo or anything like that.

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It's just basically just wants to reduce the, the size of government.

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And that's always good.

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I mean, The saddest part about this sad, sad story about the five

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different currencies all going to shit is that the dollar itself is

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suffering from the same disease.

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Yes, that's what we Bitcoiners say, but it's hard to, I mean,

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you have to understand what Argentines are going through, right?

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And so when you're the inflation, the official inflation this year is

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about 147 percent or so, but in some instances it might be 200 or 300

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percent and the bond bubble that is, uh, it's like a ticking bomb that

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this government is leaving me late.

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It has like four times the size of the monetary base in circulation.

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So if Milei solved that, for sure you have like a fourfold devaluation, right?

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You go to 25 percent and you need to go to at least 4, 000 pesos to

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a dollar to solve that bond bubble.

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And those bonds are bonds that the government has created to suck up

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all the liquidity of the pesos in the market so that those pesos do

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not go towards purchasing dollars.

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And those bonds back up all the peso deposits in banks.

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So the banks are like forced to buy these bonds from the government, right?

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That's the backing of the, all the bank accounts.

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So they have to solve that.

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They, they, they don't need to, um, you have to prevent the default

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and explosion of that bond bubble.

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Otherwise, yeah, all the bank accounts go belly up as well.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, I don't believe there's any other outcome or possibility that is not

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printing the money and devaluation, right?

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So it's going to be, like I said before, quite painful.

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So even though the dollar might have a 10 percent inflation, Or

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perhaps even more, 15, who knows.

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The governments always lie with inflation numbers.

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When you come from 150%, 15 seems like like a oasis, right?

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It's

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I walk in the park.

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Exactly, exactly.

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So what you have in a year, Argentines have in a month.

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So back, back to orange pilling melee.

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I, I know.

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So you, you weren't, were you friends with a guy?

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Like how close were you with this guy in, back in 2014,

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Well, not personal friends.

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No.

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I do know people that, yes, they are more friends with him

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or are working close to him.

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So that's a good ex A weird experience to have right now.

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So many liberals and libertarians in Argentina now are friends with

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all the guys in power or the people that are going to be in power.

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So it's a, an interesting, interesting experience.

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Um, now we also feel like we have a responsibility to help this new

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administration because if Milei fails, And there are lots of forces trying

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to formulate to fail, they will say, oh, it was the classical liberal ideas

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that brought us this hyperinflation, or that brought us this hyperdevaluation

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of the currency, and yeah, they will point the finger at him, and they

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will try to do something about it.

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All in the power to, for him not to succeed, right?

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So, on the libertarian side, we have to support him.

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We

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but you tried to orange pill him pretty hard.

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And back in 2014,

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Yes, in 2016, 2017, even when he, I remember when he was recording

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a political spot for TV in the previous election, I was one of the

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extras on the background, right?

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Uh, uh, uh, uh, and later approaching him, trying to talk

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to me about Bitcoin with him.

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And like I said, like after two minutes of talks, shuts down

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and he says, it's private money.

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That's all I care about.

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Right?

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So I believe in his mind, Bitcoin is the same as Ethereum perhaps,

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or the same as any other.

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okay.

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Okay, so, so he's taken, he's taken the black yellow pill and he's a

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true Rothbardian, but he's only taken half orange pill so far.

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Is that a good description?

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So, so then that begs the question, like, um, So how do we do this?

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How do we properly orange pill him going into the future?

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It's going to get harder and harder to reach.

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Right.

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So, uh, um, I know that there's this LaBitcoinConf in Buenos Aires, uh,

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that I heard the one this year was less shit coiny than the previous one.

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Uh, was that your, uh, were you, to begin with, were you there

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and was that your experience too?

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Yes.

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00:27:59,675 --> 00:28:03,421
I arrived, uh, I was in Europe, uh, touring with La Bitcoineta.

472
00:28:03,457 --> 00:28:07,148
We can talk about that later, but, uh, I arrived one day before the conference.

473
00:28:07,957 --> 00:28:13,039
Uh, I was a speaker there and I actually, at one moment I suggested the organizers,

474
00:28:13,111 --> 00:28:14,311
we should invite Millet, right?

475
00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:16,202
he would bring a lot of people.

476
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:21,257
The organizer didn't want like, uh, to get political on one side, right?

477
00:28:21,808 --> 00:28:27,090
But at least he did invite a, like a deputy of Milei a woman,

478
00:28:27,154 --> 00:28:31,144
she won, so she, she's now, uh, is going to become a deputy.

479
00:28:31,601 --> 00:28:35,747
And this woman is, uh, she's proposed to become like the

480
00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:37,320
chancellor of foreign affairs.

481
00:28:37,992 --> 00:28:41,524
of Milei And that woman is a Bitcoiner She knows a lot about Bitcoin.

482
00:28:41,524 --> 00:28:43,570
She, she knows even more than Milei about Bitcoin.

483
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:49,867
Uh, so it's interesting to to know about her, Diana Mondino is her name.

484
00:28:50,512 --> 00:28:53,539
Uh, I'm not sure if there are videos about her on YouTube talking about Bitcoin.

485
00:28:53,594 --> 00:28:54,113
We should look that up.

486
00:28:54,576 --> 00:28:57,412
To see if there are subtitles in English for that.

487
00:28:57,945 --> 00:29:01,927
So yeah, our best chance is going through her, right?

488
00:29:02,518 --> 00:29:04,009
to, to try to orange pill him.

489
00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:07,748
And I also believe there's going to be interest by, well, the

490
00:29:07,785 --> 00:29:09,575
usual, orange-pillers right?

491
00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:16,714
Like, uh, JAN3 Samson Mow Prince Filip, and many other guys that will try.

492
00:29:17,214 --> 00:29:21,632
Filip speaks perfect Spanish, so, and he's got the, gravitas

493
00:29:21,687 --> 00:29:22,714
that comes with his title.

494
00:29:22,732 --> 00:29:25,841
So that, that will be a way in, it would be absolutely awesome.

495
00:29:26,269 --> 00:29:27,605
So, so let's make that happen.

496
00:29:27,678 --> 00:29:30,323
Uh, and if it's not Filip let, let it be someone else.

497
00:29:30,341 --> 00:29:35,366
Like all the Spanish speaking, Bitcoiners listening to this, uh, I should

498
00:29:35,376 --> 00:29:36,794
be one at this point, but I'm not.

499
00:29:37,585 --> 00:29:38,394
Unfortunately.

500
00:29:38,883 --> 00:29:43,156
should try to reach Milei somehow and, and properly orange-pill him because

501
00:29:43,665 --> 00:29:45,283
we need this guy on our side, I think.

502
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:51,010
And, uh, so, so, so is he, uh, how well does he know Bokele in El Salvador?

503
00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:52,346
Are they in touch?

504
00:29:52,392 --> 00:29:53,337
Like, have they met?

505
00:29:54,362 --> 00:29:56,371
Not personally, that I know of.

506
00:29:57,189 --> 00:30:02,071
There is a video of Milei talking good things about Bukele, or using him as an

507
00:30:02,071 --> 00:30:08,286
example, when they told Millet, You're going to get in power and you don't

508
00:30:08,286 --> 00:30:10,759
have any deputies, senators, right?

509
00:30:11,205 --> 00:30:12,168
and belay answers.

510
00:30:12,423 --> 00:30:14,905
Do you know how many Bukele had when he started?

511
00:30:15,505 --> 00:30:15,841
Zero.

512
00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:21,023
So he sees himself as a Bukele in some sort of way.

513
00:30:21,533 --> 00:30:22,778
Yeah, yeah, I saw that clip.

514
00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:23,678
I saw that clip.

515
00:30:24,167 --> 00:30:28,994
Yeah, and there's been, well, I've seen on Twitter that El

516
00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:30,649
Salvador is going to send over a...

517
00:30:31,058 --> 00:30:34,412
A group of people, I'm not sure if Bukele for himself will

518
00:30:34,421 --> 00:30:37,676
be on the inauguration day.

519
00:30:38,285 --> 00:30:39,194
I hope he comes.

520
00:30:39,194 --> 00:30:43,867
It will be quite interesting to see Bukele, Bolsonaro,

521
00:30:44,121 --> 00:30:48,076
that used to be president in Brazil, as well as many others.

522
00:30:49,406 --> 00:30:53,656
So, yeah, I mean, have to put all the efforts in orange-pilling Milei

523
00:30:53,836 --> 00:30:56,350
all through these months They are going to be critical, they are

524
00:30:56,350 --> 00:30:57,677
going to be very painful months.

525
00:30:58,113 --> 00:31:00,213
They're going to try to destroy him.

526
00:31:00,829 --> 00:31:01,665
think that the left.

527
00:31:01,837 --> 00:31:05,798
they try to get him out of office, for him to resign, to point the finger that

528
00:31:05,972 --> 00:31:10,078
all the problems are his fault, When actually he's fixing things, right?

529
00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:12,583
He's making the problem go away.

530
00:31:12,656 --> 00:31:16,401
Argentina has a cancer right now it's only been growing and growing and growing

531
00:31:16,401 --> 00:31:18,246
and now it's the time to take it out.

532
00:31:18,466 --> 00:31:22,450
To suffer the going through the medical procedure, but after that you're

533
00:31:22,477 --> 00:31:24,524
healed, you can start to recover.

534
00:31:25,118 --> 00:31:26,582
I will put all my efforts in as well.

535
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Beautiful, beautiful story and beautiful puts, Ariel.

568
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So, from one thing to another, what can you tell us about this La Bitcoinista?

569
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:19,667
No, La Bitcoinetta, sorry, sorry.

570
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:24,421
The Bitcoin van, how is that project going and where is the

571
00:33:24,421 --> 00:33:25,785
van now and where is it going?

572
00:33:26,184 --> 00:33:28,611
Well, this, I'm going to show you a picture of what

573
00:33:28,611 --> 00:33:29,557
the band looks like, right?

574
00:33:30,429 --> 00:33:32,293
This is the European Bitcoin ETA.

575
00:33:33,448 --> 00:33:36,802
And it's a project to teach people about Bitcoin, orange pill

576
00:33:36,857 --> 00:33:38,329
people all throughout Europe.

577
00:33:38,911 --> 00:33:41,348
But actually the idea to do this came from Argentina.

578
00:33:41,348 --> 00:33:44,807
This is the first Bitcoin ETA that is still here in Argentina.

579
00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:46,916
From 2018, right?

580
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:51,870
We, we started this project and this one has traveled through Brazil, Uruguay,

581
00:33:51,934 --> 00:33:54,216
Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Argentina.

582
00:33:55,198 --> 00:34:00,925
And then when Bukele announced Bitcoin in El Salvador, we

583
00:34:01,452 --> 00:34:02,992
did this one for El Salvador.

584
00:34:02,992 --> 00:34:06,079
This one is in El Zonte in Beacon

585
00:34:06,107 --> 00:34:07,689
Yeah, I recognize

586
00:34:07,907 --> 00:34:08,416
You've been there?

587
00:34:08,861 --> 00:34:09,298
Yes.

588
00:34:09,361 --> 00:34:09,552
Yes.

589
00:34:09,652 --> 00:34:12,143
No, I haven't been, but I've seen pictures of it in Ensente.

590
00:34:12,684 --> 00:34:12,984
Right.

591
00:34:13,439 --> 00:34:17,675
Um, last year, uh, this one was launched in, uh, in South Africa.

592
00:34:17,684 --> 00:34:22,648
Uh, it's at the Shuttle and Cruiser and our Bitcoinetta, we've

593
00:34:22,657 --> 00:34:26,966
been traveling through Europe from May 5th till October 27th.

594
00:34:27,503 --> 00:34:29,212
We've covered more than 20 countries.

595
00:34:29,439 --> 00:34:31,694
So we started in Spain, Gibraltar, Portugal.

596
00:34:31,957 --> 00:34:33,030
We went all the way.

597
00:34:33,716 --> 00:34:36,744
Well to bt deprived to Oslo for the Human Rights Foundation

598
00:34:36,798 --> 00:34:41,616
Conference all the way to Istanbul in Turkey, and then back, right?

599
00:34:41,971 --> 00:34:48,998
Riga, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, uh, the UK for a month we did so, so in total

600
00:34:49,248 --> 00:34:52,189
we, we did more than 40,000 kilometers.

601
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:55,153
That is like saying like 25,000 miles or so.

602
00:34:55,831 --> 00:35:00,431
we lead, uh, I don't have the number here, but I guess 100

603
00:35:00,494 --> 00:35:02,173
meetups, uh, many, many conferences.

604
00:35:02,898 --> 00:35:05,370
And so the, yeah, the idea is to spread the Bitcoin message.

605
00:35:05,707 --> 00:35:10,434
We carry books, like many, we carry your, your books as well, uh, and other

606
00:35:10,434 --> 00:35:13,734
books, uh, hardware wallets, uh, yeah.

607
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:18,707
We have a minor, an old, so, so, so yeah, the idea is to

608
00:35:18,761 --> 00:35:20,343
orange pill people to educate.

609
00:35:21,098 --> 00:35:26,343
And for next year, for 2024, we're considering like organizing, uh, small

610
00:35:26,361 --> 00:35:31,652
conferences all throughout Europe, because when we did the closing of the tour.

611
00:35:32,057 --> 00:35:38,593
We did it in Andorra because when back in May we cross, or June, we

612
00:35:38,593 --> 00:35:43,466
cross through Andorra, we met a Bitcoiner and that guy, he told us,

613
00:35:43,466 --> 00:35:44,993
oh yeah, he knew the president, right?

614
00:35:44,993 --> 00:35:47,393
Because Andorra is a small country, he knew the president

615
00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:50,893
and I thought, oh, this is a great orange pilling opportunity, right?

616
00:35:51,548 --> 00:35:54,139
So I asked him, what about we organize a conference?

617
00:35:54,989 --> 00:35:58,680
And he went to the Association of Engineers and the Association

618
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,661
of Economists, and yeah, they got into the idea.

619
00:36:03,261 --> 00:36:06,980
They invited their database of engineers, database of

620
00:36:07,043 --> 00:36:08,470
economists, accountants, and so on.

621
00:36:09,352 --> 00:36:12,944
And they gave us a, uh, an auditorium and we held the first

622
00:36:12,944 --> 00:36:14,308
Bitcoin only conference of Andorra.

623
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:15,053
Right?

624
00:36:15,416 --> 00:36:20,416
so, so it's nice to see La Bitcoineta organizing the first Bitcoin

625
00:36:20,416 --> 00:36:21,852
only conferences in each city.

626
00:36:22,359 --> 00:36:27,550
Uh, where we've been through, uh, and, and in the end, uh, this, uh, Andorran

627
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,514
guy could not confirm us like, yeah, the president's coming or people

628
00:36:31,514 --> 00:36:32,655
from the banking sector are coming.

629
00:36:32,655 --> 00:36:38,232
So, so I did not like push it further, but if he had confirmed,

630
00:36:38,232 --> 00:36:39,350
yes, the president's coming.

631
00:36:39,777 --> 00:36:39,968
Yeah.

632
00:36:40,086 --> 00:36:40,914
I would have told Samsung.

633
00:36:41,014 --> 00:36:42,395
I would have told Prince Philip, right?

634
00:36:43,023 --> 00:36:46,569
Hey guys, you need to come or a sponsored event or something.

635
00:36:46,569 --> 00:36:46,962
Sure.

636
00:36:47,154 --> 00:36:51,309
You need to tell me to, because I'll, uh, I'll hop in the car and drive up there.

637
00:36:51,673 --> 00:36:53,509
Like, of course.

638
00:36:55,068 --> 00:36:57,659
I should look the photo up, but for Andorra, which is a

639
00:36:57,659 --> 00:36:59,404
country of 60, 80, 000 people.

640
00:37:00,059 --> 00:37:01,732
It was quite a nice event.

641
00:37:01,732 --> 00:37:04,641
I mean, we had like 25 people or 30 people come in.

642
00:37:05,308 --> 00:37:06,890
so yeah, that's the project.

643
00:37:07,472 --> 00:37:09,463
You can follow me on Twitter.

644
00:37:09,472 --> 00:37:12,645
It's at Ariel Aguilar, the handle.

645
00:37:13,163 --> 00:37:18,286
And next year I will also be launching a book about Argentina and Bitcoin.

646
00:37:18,792 --> 00:37:19,747
Fantastic.

647
00:37:19,964 --> 00:37:22,527
And yeah, you should also follow the Bitcoin Netta project.

648
00:37:23,114 --> 00:37:27,927
Atta EU is the European version, I guess, and I guess there's a similar,

649
00:37:27,927 --> 00:37:29,536
uh, handle for the other project.

650
00:37:29,573 --> 00:37:32,077
The, the, the other ones from Argentina.

651
00:37:32,077 --> 00:37:36,354
I think it's at Bitcoin or at Lata la Bitcoin.

652
00:37:37,001 --> 00:37:40,455
yeah, you should follow us there and you should come to Argentina and look,

653
00:37:41,137 --> 00:37:45,110
I should definitely come to Argentina, so should you, Luke, and we should, yeah, we

654
00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:46,819
should do a South American tour one day.

655
00:37:47,113 --> 00:37:49,541
course we'll throw a, a barbecue.

656
00:37:50,313 --> 00:37:51,595
We'll throw a big barbecue when you come.

657
00:37:51,801 --> 00:37:52,619
We have the best meat.

658
00:37:52,902 --> 00:37:56,893
yes, the Argentinian kitchen is the best in the world.

659
00:37:56,975 --> 00:38:01,402
Like, I, there's an Argentinian steakhouse here close to where I live, and it's

660
00:38:01,411 --> 00:38:02,766
my absolute favorite restaurant.

661
00:38:03,138 --> 00:38:04,811
There's nothing like a steak

662
00:38:04,902 --> 00:38:08,202
do you know how, how, how much does it cost?

663
00:38:08,202 --> 00:38:11,034
Like a kilo of sirloin or in Argentina?

664
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,814
Uh, less than here, I guess, and, uh, very

665
00:38:14,818 --> 00:38:17,737
It's like three, three or four dollars for a kilo right now.

666
00:38:17,987 --> 00:38:19,241
oh, fantastic.

667
00:38:19,487 --> 00:38:20,459
We have to go, Luke.

668
00:38:21,964 --> 00:38:22,400
Yes, yes,

669
00:38:22,673 --> 00:38:22,946
agree.

670
00:38:22,955 --> 00:38:23,700
Looking forward to it.

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710
00:40:15,029 --> 00:40:15,929
fund today.

711
00:40:15,972 --> 00:40:19,181
before we let you go, Ariel, uh, is there anything you want

712
00:40:19,181 --> 00:40:21,081
to have on your mind, Luke?

713
00:40:21,090 --> 00:40:21,108
We

714
00:40:21,154 --> 00:40:21,772
You know what?

715
00:40:21,772 --> 00:40:23,672
I think this has been a fantastic overview.

716
00:40:23,708 --> 00:40:28,942
So, uh, I'll just toss it back with, uh, do you think this is going to work?

717
00:40:29,478 --> 00:40:32,424
Are you optimistic that that Melee is going to succeed?

718
00:40:32,751 --> 00:40:36,460
Well, if he remains in power, they don't overthrow him.

719
00:40:36,996 --> 00:40:43,623
They don't make him suicide because in Argentina sometimes when people appear

720
00:40:43,623 --> 00:40:46,533
dead, eh, they have them dead, right?

721
00:40:47,087 --> 00:40:53,587
And if this influence from the previous president that has like a godfather him

722
00:40:54,446 --> 00:40:57,546
Let's not go too far, right, because this previous president might...

723
00:40:58,310 --> 00:41:03,437
Put many people from the previous administration in power, uh, I expect them

724
00:41:03,446 --> 00:41:09,228
not to stop things and not come with those k nation ideas that they have, right?

725
00:41:10,073 --> 00:41:15,383
So if he's able, yeah, to, to, to bring his idea of sports, uh, the next few

726
00:41:15,383 --> 00:41:17,619
years in Argentina are going to be great.

727
00:41:17,746 --> 00:41:19,437
I mean, they're going to be all upside.

728
00:41:20,292 --> 00:41:23,283
So you foreigners, you can, you will be able to come here with a

729
00:41:23,301 --> 00:41:26,573
few hundred dollars or thousands of dollars and buy everything, right?

730
00:41:27,037 --> 00:41:30,355
on the cheap and ride all the upside wave.

731
00:41:31,064 --> 00:41:36,346
And it's going to be a very free country, like to do peer to peer transactions.

732
00:41:37,083 --> 00:41:38,837
Nobody messing with you, right?

733
00:41:39,516 --> 00:41:40,170
to be a free country.

734
00:41:40,252 --> 00:41:41,785
So you're invited to come.

735
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:43,589
Absolutely awesome.

736
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:49,398
And one thing we haven't mentioned, if there's one undeniable fact about

737
00:41:49,443 --> 00:41:53,662
Javier Mille, it's that he has the best haircut of any politician ever.

738
00:41:53,907 --> 00:41:55,080
Like that haircut is just

739
00:41:55,757 --> 00:41:56,739
Yeah, for sure.

740
00:41:57,084 --> 00:41:57,521
Rockstar.

741
00:41:57,625 --> 00:41:58,407
Sideburns for the win.

742
00:41:59,607 --> 00:42:01,162
What do you think about Melee's chances?

743
00:42:01,771 --> 00:42:03,753
What do you think about Melee's haircuts?

744
00:42:03,762 --> 00:42:05,243
What do you think about all of this?

745
00:42:05,662 --> 00:42:09,034
Comment below and like, subscribe and brush your teeth, people.

746
00:42:09,389 --> 00:42:11,043
So, see you in the next one.

747
00:42:11,143 --> 00:42:12,098
Thank you very much, Arjo.

748
00:42:12,466 --> 00:42:12,830
See you.

749
00:42:12,948 --> 00:42:13,203
Bye.