Proof of Work | Sovereignty Through Mathematics Chapter 5 | Bitcoin Infinity Academy #6


This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy covers Sovereignty Through Mathematics Chapter 4: Proof of Work
The discussion covers the intrinsic value of proof of work, its evolutionary metaphor, and why Bitcoin's finite supply and difficulty adjustment algorithm make it superior to other assets like gold and fiat currencies. The hosts also explore some thought experiments, including Bitcoin's role in a simulated reality.
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Welcome to the Bitcoin Infinity
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This is, uh, chapter five,
I believe, of, uh, Bitcoin
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Sovereignty through mathematics.
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My first book on Bitcoin, I'm Kwan and
I'm here as always with Luke De Wolf.
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and you can read along there.
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am I forgetting anything?
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Knu.
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I don't think so.
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So we can, uh, we can just jump into
this chapter called Proof of Work
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Here and see, see what's in this one.
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Absolutely wonderful.
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All right, let's do it.
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Proof of work.
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Zoom out of time for a while and
imagine how the antlers of a magnificent
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moose buck evolved into being.
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The main purpose of big antlers in
nature is believed to be a way for
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the buck to impress potential mates.
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They're somewhat akin to the
feathers of a peacock or the shroud
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of any male bird, for that matter.
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The animal is trying to signal that
it can thrive in its environment.
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Despite its enormous appendage.
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It's there to tell the potential
mate that this specific specimen will
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bring her strong, healthy offspring.
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These are all evolutionary metaphors.
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Of course, the animal itself is
probably unaware of signaling anything.
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For such antlers to evolve into being
a whole lot of moose will have to die
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early, or at least not get a chance to
reproduce over thousands of generations.
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In other words, a lot of resources need
to be wasted, all of this for the animal
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to prove its value to potential spouses.
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Therefore, from the surviving
moose's point of view, the
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aforementioned resources were
sacrificed rather than wasted.
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Good start.
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I see where this is going.
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And always love a moose metaphor.
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Of course you do.
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You're a cano.
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Uh, so isn't it an elk metaphor?
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No, it's a moose in, in Canada.
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Right.
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And an elk.
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So where, where, where are
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both.
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There's both.
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Okay.
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It would be reindeer though.
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If we were, if we were
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And is the plural of moose Meese.
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It's definitely Meese.
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Yes.
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And elk and many elk.
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Elk and many elk.
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Yes, that's that's correct.
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Actually, Eskimos is the
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Uh, I believe that's, uh, Inuit, isn't
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That's politically correct.
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We'll have some editing to
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I think we can mo leave most of that in.
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I'll right then.
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anyway, the, this is one example
of many in nature of, of proof
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of work, uh, especially in birds.
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I, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, I mean,
I'm not a biologist by, by any stretch of
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the imagination, but from what I know of
evolutionary theory, this, this is one of
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the things that was hardest to explain,
like, uh, traits in animals and plants
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that didn't, didn't have an, an obvious.
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Survival mechanism thing attached
to them, but they figured out
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later that it's used for the, that
it's, uh, actually proof of work.
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So the, the feathers of a peacock,
for instance, or, or strange
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mating rituals in birds, they're
actually there to, to uh, um.
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for the animal to signal to the
other animal that they are capable
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of more than meets the eye.
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Uh, uh, and this is, uh, a very
good me metaphor for what's,
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what proof of work is in Bitcoin.
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I believe like You could, from a certain
perspective, you could say that it's
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actually proof of results rather than
proof of work because it's only the,
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the actual valid block that counts.
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so it's more alluding to work than
proving work because you could be super
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lucky with your bit X or something
and just find the correct block after
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having tried a handful of times.
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But, uh.
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Usually, uh, if the, if the, uh,
difficulty is high enough, it takes,
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trillions of, uh, of guesses per second
for the network to find the correct block.
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So, so this is, yeah, at the
very core of what Bitcoin is.
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The maybe also, uh, like make this
point that, um, everything in Bitcoin
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is probabilistic, so reason it takes
10 minutes to find the next block on
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average is that it's, uh, the probability
is set, uh, in such a way that, uh, it
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takes on average 10 minutes and every
two weeks It's, uh, recalibrated with
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the difficulty adjustment algorithm,
so the, the 10 minutes are dependent
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on these two weeks, and the two weeks
are dependent on the 10 minutes.
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So it's a, a loop thingy going on there.
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And it's one of, like, I've never
met a person that can accurately,
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accurately describe the difficulty
adjustment algorithm and sometimes,
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uh, and simultaneously be against
Bitcoin or have good arguments
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for why Bitcoin doesn't work.
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Because that's when it usually, when
it actually clicks, is when you get
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the difficulty adjustment algorithm.
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so, um, what else to say about that?
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Um, no, I think, I think that's it.
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That's great.
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And I mean, this chapter is
a great explanation of the
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proof of work mechanism.
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And so I think here, well, first
of all, you've, you've gone and
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dug into the actual Bitcoin parts.
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I think we'll, we'll cover it in
the upcoming I. Or paragraphs.
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But yeah, it's great.
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I mean, I, I think just first
of all, on this evolutionary
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metaphor, it's ingenious.
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I hadn't ever thought of it quite this
way myself, that that would be akin
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to this whole proof of work thing.
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That evolution over time is akin to the
proof of work versus proof of results.
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Thing like the, the result is that you get
a better chance at reproducing something
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like that, and it takes a, a long time.
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It's not an exact perfect corollary,
but it, it does have, elements of what
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evolution actually is because there's,
there's misconceptions about evolution.
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It's not necessarily exactly about this.
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You have a better chance of reproducing.
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It's also an aggregate.
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It's like you say, it's
a, it's probabilistic.
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Uh, something that maybe makes,
one individual moose, for example,
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capable of having an offspring might
mean that they don't have enough food
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to go around for the pack of meese.
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And that that little particular
subplate of meese dies out.
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Uh.
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Right, but, but it, so it's the things
that actually work over time, not in
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single generations either, which I
think is another point that's along
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the lines of what you were saying here.
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Yeah, and I think the biggest,
most common misconception about
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evolution in general is the timescale,
because these timescales are huge.
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They're enormous.
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They take like hundreds of thousands,
even millions of years for, for things
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to, to, to come into being, and, and
there is so much trial and error.
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So like it's not survival of the fittest,
it's survival of whoever survives.
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For whatever reason they may survive.
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Like, uh, and this is true on a cellular
level as well as on a, a pack level.
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Uh, so, so there's a lot of things
going on there, and it's, uh, widely
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misunderstood, but I, I think the, uh,
proof of work metaphor works really well.
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Exactly, and we, we just had a question
in the chat about how is it possible.
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For a bid x to find a block, and I
mean, the, the answer is that it's
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an extremely low probability, right?
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It's, it's extremely unlikely
that a Bid X would find a block,
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but it is possible technically.
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No, e exactly.
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Back to, uh, that's a
good question, by the way.
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And, uh, there's, uh, it's,
it's all about probabilistic.
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I mean, you could do the hash by hand
and find the correct block if you were
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really, really, really amazingly lucky.
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Uh, but the probability is so
low, so it's not worth the effort.
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And that's at the core of what Bitcoin is.
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Like.
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The, the, the only reason.
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You say that you own the Bitcoin is
that you find it very improbable that
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someone else holds the same private
key, but it's not actual ownership,
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it's just knowing a number I.
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Yep, exactly.
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Um, nothing, nothing else to add here.
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Maybe let's get into the, uh, specifics
that you, you wrote about previously.
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All right, onto the next one.
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The proof of work algorithm in
Bitcoin does a similar thing.
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It enables miners to sacrifice a lot
of electricity, a real world resource
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to find a certain number, thereby
proving that they had to commit a
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lot of time and effort to do this.
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Time, by the way, is the
scarcest of all resources.
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Because of all this, a Bitcoin
miner is very reluctant to
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sell Bitcoin at a net loss.
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The electricity has already been used
when the Bitcoin pops into existence,
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and the miner has no other means of
getting his money back then by selling
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the Bitcoin for more than the cost of
the electricity it took to produce them.
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This is assuming that the mining rig
itself has already been paid for.
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Proof of work is a way of converting
computing power into money in a sense.
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Yes, these rigs consume a lot of
energy, but the energy consumed
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correlates directly to the actual
value of the created token.
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Any decrease in the energy expenditure
would also lead to a decrease in the
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value of the token, not necessarily
in the price, but the actual value.
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This is the main reason mining
algorithms can't be less resource
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consuming or more energy efficient.
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Wasting energy is the whole point.
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No waste.
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No proof of commitment.
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Interesting.
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What are your thoughts?
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Yeah.
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Um.
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If, if you found yourself in a dark
cave, uh, and you had a, a, a flashlight
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and you, and you found a gold bar, and
you found a piece of paper with a bunch
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of zeros followed by strange letters,
like what would intrigue you the most?
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So this might sound
like a strange question.
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What, what I'm alluding to is that
anyone who understands how extremely
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hard it is to find the hash of a
Bitcoin block and a hash beginning
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without many zeros, can instantly, uh,
see how much energy must have been,
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uh, sacrificed to find the block.
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So, so that thing in itself is
like, should trigger the question
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in your mind, why, why on earth was
this person willing to sacrifice
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so much effort to find this number?
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It's weird, isn't it?
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And that should trigger all the
other questions and intrigue you
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enough to figure out what Bitcoin
is and, and come to the, holy shit,
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this is super valuable Conclusion.
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But, uh, yeah, there, there's a lot here.
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Um, some of the terms I wouldn't have
used, maybe if I wrote this now with
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the value on the price in the, in the
end here, I think the, the, there's
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a lot of bad metaphors, uh, around
for Bitcoin's scarcity or finiteness
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on how to, how to like convert.
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electricity into, you know, what,
digital energy and all of this stuff.
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I don't really like those terms
because that's not actually what it is.
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All it is is like one
specific part of a finite pie.
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Uh, and, uh, that finite pie,
it's, it's valuable because
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people think it's valuable.
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Like everything else, it's,
uh, value is subjective.
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So the value part is, uh, iffy.
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But, um, I'd say.
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What it can do is convert energy into a
very specific part of a very specific pie.
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you know, I think the
metaphors are still helpful.
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We've, we've been over this a little bit,
that it's, it's still often helpful for,
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I. newer Bitcoiners or pre Bitcoiners
even to understand what's going on.
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But yeah, it's not.
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Literally, for example, a battery, or
not literally energy being converted
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into money, but it, it is a way for
energy that would otherwise not be used
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to be consumed in a productive way.
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And in, in that sense, it's as
close to a battery or energy being
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converted into money as possible.
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Uh, and the, the uses for this are,
are, they are, they're bountiful now.
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Uh.
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No, I, I'd say energy being converted into
money is a correct metaphor, uh, uh, but
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calling it digital energy is not, uh, so
the, I I tweeted a thing yesterday, uh,
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along these lines by the way, uh, which
is how I'm thinking about this nowadays,
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and that is when orange peeling avoid
metaphors that attract mid widths, but
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repel edges of the bell curve people.
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So, so that's my advice because it's
more important to get the edges of the
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bell curve people into Bitcoin than it
is to get the middle of the bell curve
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people into Bitcoin, in my opinion.
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Uh, because what you want is
the rednecks with pickup trucks
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and don't tread on me shotguns.
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Uh, and you want the really, really
clever people and everyone else will
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follow eventually if you just get those.
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So, so like this is what to think
about when getting, when, when.
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When figuring out metaphors
for the different functions
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of the Bitcoin network.
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Uh, in my opinion.
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Very good.
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I think there are some people who
are making the arguments for the mid
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widths and are just trying to get as
many people into Bitcoin as possible.
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But I think we need both
approaches, basically.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and, uh, but I prefer the
other approach, like the mid
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widths will eventually come anyway
and, uh, that's good to remember.
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I.
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Point.
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Let's, let's move on to the next one here.
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Sorry.
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If anyone go for, um, like,
I, I don't really mean width.
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I mean middle of the bell curve
person, uh, that's much less offensive.
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Somehow.
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All right.
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Onto the next one.
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The fundamental principles of
Bitcoin were set in stone in
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2008 and block number zero.
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The so-called Genesis block
was mined in January, 2009.
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In Bitcoin, a block of transactions
is created every 10 minutes in
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its first four years of existence.
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These blocks included a 50
Bitcoin block reward given to
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the miner who found the block.
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four years, this reward is halved so
that the maximum amount of Bitcoin
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that can ever be claimed can never
exceed just short of 21 million.
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2016th block, or roughly every two weeks,
the difficulty of finding a new block
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is recalibrated so that a block will
be found every 10 minutes on average.
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The value of this feature
and the impact it has on coin
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issuance is often understated.
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It is one of the features of Bitcoin
that separates it from gold and
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other assets in one of the most
subtle, yet most powerful ways.
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the price of gold or silver or oil
or any other asset goes up, producing
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that asset becomes more profitable
and more resources are allocated
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to produce more of it faster.
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This in turn, evens out the price.
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As the total supply of
said asset increases.
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Gold has been able to maintain or
increase its value long-term over time
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because of its high stock to flow ratio.
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Stock refers to the supply of an
asset currently available on the
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market Flow refers to the amount
added to the stock per time unit.
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The bigger the stock in relation
to the flow, the less of an impact
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on the total supply and increase
in the price of a specific asset.
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Has.
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In Bitcoin, a price increase has
virtually no impact at all on
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the coin issuance rate the flow.
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since the difficulty of finding the next
block in the chain is constantly being
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optimized for a strict issuance schedule.
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No other asset has ever behaved like this,
and we are yet to find out what impact its
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existence will have on the world economy.
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Yeah, so a bunch of the specifics
about how the proof of work algorithm
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and difficulty adjustment works.
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Yes, uh, this is the term stock to
flow is, uh, uh, something you should
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know about if you're in Bitcoin.
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And, uh, because it's very
important to understand the,
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the value proposition here.
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Uh, and this is also pointing out why
Bitcoin is not digital gold, uh, and why
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it's so much better than gold because.
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It has a finite supply.
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Gold does not.
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the reason that a cow priced in gold
is, uh, costs about the same now as
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5,000 years ago, is that the ability for
humans to find new gold, uh, increased,
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uh, in parallel with the increase of
productivity of everything else, uh,
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meaning that Gold's, Gold's stock
to flow is diminishing, but not, um.
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Not at the same rate as as Bitcoin,
because Bitcoin will, we will
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eventually run out of bitcoins.
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We won't eventually run out of gold.
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Uh, so it's, so it's
super different there.
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And therefore also to everyone aware
of this issu issue and schedule,
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you could say that all the bitcoins
already exist and that they've always
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existed even, and that it's just that
the hash rate was zero up until 2009.
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And, uh, when this thing.
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Materialized.
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Uh, and, and this is so fascinating to
me, um, like the way I see it, the, the,
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the miners do not produce the Bitcoins.
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They produce blocks and we, the network
pay them in Bitcoins to, to secure
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the network for us and produce blocks
which we can fill with transactions.
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the, the way they get paid
is through the block subsidy,
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which is block reward plus fees.
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Uh, and the, the block reward part
of it, the thing that Hals every four
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years is how many bitcoins we allow them
to, print out thin air for themselves
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per 10 min, uh, every 10 minutes.
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but, but it's, um.
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Set in stone already, and it, it won't
be ever be, there won't ever be more
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than 21 million bitcoins, which is why
everything divided by 21 million makes
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sense, uh, from some, some angles.
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so if you know about this, you've
already priced that in and, and
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you know that this is the most
precious thing you can ever own.
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Uh, I think we've already somewhat
talked about these specific features.
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I think the contrast to gold is one of
the interesting things here, the more
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interesting things to grasp, basically.
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Uh.
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The, the line, no other asset has
ever behaved like this, and we're yet
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to find out what the impact it, its
existence will have on the world economy.
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Yeah.
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That, that's basically it.
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What's what's happening, what we're
seeing as miners pretty much constantly
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pour more resources into Bitcoin mining.
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We're at, I, I think we changed to
having a, it's an XA hash now, like
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there was something about that we're on
another, another zero in hashes recently,
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Or another three zeros,
so it's another prefix.
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Well, yeah, yeah.
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Right, right, right.
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It's another prefix.
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And, and it didn't just, it didn't just
like, barely hit the XA hash number.
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It, it, like burst through it even.
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Um, so yeah, it's, it's, um,
despite that the more production
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doesn't actually lead to an increase
in the production of the good.
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more miners or more individuals
are choosing to start up miners and
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attempt to, to find the bitcoin.
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Basically, and I, I think that's
the, that's the natural effect here,
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that it's a totally scarce resource.
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Therefore, if you get some of it, you have
a, a fixed amount of the fixed supply.
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That's it.
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And that's never going to, to change,
that's never going to be inflated away,
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at least while those of us who understand
Bitcoin have anything to say about it.
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Maybe make a point here about
probabilistic again, like the
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probability that it ever will change.
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It's, it's so low that we can, Treat
it as if it will never change, but
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it could theoretically change if
everyone in the met, uh, in the network
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agrees that that's a good decision.
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Uh, so, so that's, that's
the beauty of this thing.
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Like, uh, it's, it's robust because
it's, uh, what's the word, anti-fragile,
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Because we all have to agree that,
uh, to agree that it needs to
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change in order for it to change.
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So it's not like a democracy at all.
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It's you need a, an, an
absolute super majority.
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And another way to look at that is that
you need, you need it to be a good idea
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for the good idea to be implemented.
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I. Because everyone agrees it's a good
idea, then it's, it is a good idea.
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Objectively, everyone thinks so.
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So yeah, there's, uh, that,
that, that's about that.
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Uh, I may, may, uh, maybe I
should say a couple of more things
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about the stock to flow thing.
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So the, the, because it's, it's
only skimmed on the surface here.
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So the thing that happens when
Gold's Price goes up is that
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gold miners buy more, Spades.
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They buy mining equipment in spades.
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Uh, so, so, so that they can
find more gold per time unit.
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Uh, uh, but at the same time, the,
the total gold supply of gold in
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the Earth's crossed is running out.
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So it becomes.
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Like the, the bigger the stock of
gold that is already there, the
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less of an impact This change in
price has to the flow of new gold
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coming into the market because they
allocate more resources to finding it.
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and here, bitcoin's completely different.
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Uh, the, the supply is not dependent
on how much you try to find them.
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That's it.
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You don't get more than, uh,
one block per every 10 minutes.
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Like that's, that's how it
works and it's beautiful.
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so you're not, you're not getting
more bitcoins, but you're getting more
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value for your, for your hashing power.
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And, and that's sort of the point.
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Very good point.
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It is, uh, and I think the details
about this just continue on here
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now in the, the following paragraph.
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So I think let's continue.
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So how does one mine a block
in the Bitcoin blockchain?
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In short, the mining process
goes something like this.
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Every active node in the Bitcoin network
stores a copy of the MEM pool, which
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contains all Bitcoin transactions
that haven't been confirmed yet.
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The miner puts as many transactions
as the block size allows into
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the block Usually selecting
those with the highest fee first.
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He then adds a random number called ance
and produces a hash of the entire thing.
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Using the SHA 2 56 hashing
algorithm, a hashing algorithm
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turns data into a string of numbers.
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If the resulting hash begins with a
specific number of zeros, decided by
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the current difficulty of the network,
the minor wins, the block reward,
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collects all the fees, and gets to
put the block on the blockchain.
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I think I could continue here, but
honestly, there's a couple of points to
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discuss just directly from this paragraph.
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I.
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Yes, here.
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Uh, the, the thing I'd like to point out
is that there's no such thing as the Mele.
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Uh, every node decides what
their mele consists of.
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You don't have to put transactions in your
mele if you don't like the transactions.
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Like we, we come to a consensus of
what, what constitutes, uh, a valid
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transaction, and that's what happens.
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That that's what, Decides what, what
transactions you put in your maple.
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Of course, if you don't allow, or, or
if you censor and if you, if your PLE
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is very much different from everyone
else's, the the chances of them actually
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being okayed by all the other I.
Participants in the block is, is lower.
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But yeah, maybe I'm, I'm, uh,
not explaining that really well
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here, but, uh, point is that
there's no such thing as thele.
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The, there's, uh, there
are plenty of differents.
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And of course that's an important
distinction here, the collective mepo,
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such as it is, as in the, uh, average
mepo based on that, those transactions
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which are mostly circulating.
451
00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:20,748
Okay.
452
00:25:20,748 --> 00:25:24,948
That's, that's sort of a
fine concept that does exist.
453
00:25:25,038 --> 00:25:27,138
Again, we're in the, we're in
the territory of things that
454
00:25:27,138 --> 00:25:30,108
are really useful to know.
455
00:25:30,618 --> 00:25:33,468
Uh, if you really want to
understand everything as it.
456
00:25:33,843 --> 00:25:39,423
Is down to the base of it, but not
necessarily, uh, you, you can think
457
00:25:39,423 --> 00:25:43,353
of the abstraction, uh, a little
bit in the general sense, like, I'm
458
00:25:43,353 --> 00:25:46,923
broadcasting my, I'm broadcasting
my transaction to the me pool.
459
00:25:46,983 --> 00:25:49,893
I think that's fine to think that,
but yeah, you're, you're right.
460
00:25:49,893 --> 00:25:55,233
It's, you're, you're broadcast, you're
broadcasting a transaction to, uh, from
461
00:25:55,233 --> 00:25:59,913
your node or from someone else's node
to a bunch of other nodes, and they keep
462
00:25:59,913 --> 00:26:01,713
broadcasting it, et cetera, et cetera.
463
00:26:01,713 --> 00:26:03,063
And that's, that's how it actually.
464
00:26:04,083 --> 00:26:07,893
Up and they can be different because
you can set different policies or choose
465
00:26:07,893 --> 00:26:10,443
to have only transactions you can.
466
00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:13,053
You can choose not to broadcast
transactions, but put them in your
467
00:26:13,053 --> 00:26:17,433
mem pool and if you're a minor, that's
how you could mine transactions that
468
00:26:17,433 --> 00:26:20,163
are outta band and not broadcast it
to the whole rest of the network.
469
00:26:21,182 --> 00:26:23,192
There's a lot that goes into this.
470
00:26:23,252 --> 00:26:28,423
Uh, without getting too technical,
Bitcoin is dependent on, users being
471
00:26:28,423 --> 00:26:32,983
active and running their nodes and,
and actually taking care about like
472
00:26:33,403 --> 00:26:38,173
what their node does and what kind of
transactions it lets through or not.
473
00:26:39,393 --> 00:26:42,453
And, uh, it's people doing
that, that's what becomes the
474
00:26:42,453 --> 00:26:45,393
average, uh, after a while.
475
00:26:45,393 --> 00:26:45,603
Right?
476
00:26:45,603 --> 00:26:51,993
That's, that's what eventually, eventually
all of it is about coming to an agreement.
477
00:26:51,993 --> 00:26:53,523
That's what we call consensus.
478
00:26:54,197 --> 00:26:54,417
Yes.
479
00:26:54,777 --> 00:26:55,097
Consensus.
480
00:26:55,182 --> 00:26:57,532
That's a. Important word.
481
00:26:57,592 --> 00:27:02,902
Uh, and as you say, maybe this isn't
the, uh, time to go too technical or
482
00:27:02,902 --> 00:27:05,512
too deep into some of these features.
483
00:27:05,512 --> 00:27:09,375
I think we'll, we'll dig more
deeply into concepts of the types
484
00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:13,845
of transactions that are permitted
and, and other mechanisms like that.
485
00:27:13,845 --> 00:27:18,273
But I think maybe it's, it's perhaps, for
another time or, or what do you think?
486
00:27:18,273 --> 00:27:19,203
Did you want to get into the whole
487
00:27:19,293 --> 00:27:19,503
Yeah.
488
00:27:19,503 --> 00:27:20,043
No, no.
489
00:27:20,043 --> 00:27:24,633
We, we, we, uh, we get into the weeds
of this in the, um, clown World book,
490
00:27:24,693 --> 00:27:26,523
and we'll see what has happened then.
491
00:27:26,523 --> 00:27:30,243
And it's, it is interesting because
we we're not starting that whole
492
00:27:30,393 --> 00:27:34,173
serious, uh, like we're starting that
like a year from now or something.
493
00:27:34,173 --> 00:27:37,593
So it's gonna be very interesting
to see how, how well that aged.
494
00:27:37,893 --> 00:27:41,613
I, I guess, and by the way, consensus
is spelled with a C and not a K.
495
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:49,803
let's, let's move on The beauty of the
system is that it is trivial for the nodes
496
00:27:49,803 --> 00:27:54,783
in the network to verify the block so that
no double spending can occur, but it's
497
00:27:54,783 --> 00:27:59,673
near impossible to forge a fake hash since
the probability of finding one that begins
498
00:27:59,673 --> 00:28:04,413
with as many zeros as the difficulty of
the Bitcoin network demands extremely low.
499
00:28:05,733 --> 00:28:09,783
To a layman's eye, a hash beginning
with a bunch of zeros just looks
500
00:28:09,783 --> 00:28:13,653
like a random number, but a person
who understands the mathematics
501
00:28:13,653 --> 00:28:15,243
behind it sees a different thing.
502
00:28:16,323 --> 00:28:19,503
The zeros act as proof of an
enormous commitment to trying
503
00:28:19,503 --> 00:28:22,293
out different nonsense and
trying to find a perfect match.
504
00:28:23,013 --> 00:28:26,643
If you're able to understand these
huge numbers, you quickly realize that
505
00:28:26,643 --> 00:28:30,273
this number must have been created by
devoting computing power to doing just
506
00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:32,973
that on an absolutely massive scale.
507
00:28:33,768 --> 00:28:35,448
The proof is in those zeros.
508
00:28:36,678 --> 00:28:40,428
If you compare just the hash rate of the
top five, so-called cryptocurrencies,
509
00:28:40,848 --> 00:28:45,348
it is obvious that Bitcoin is on a
different level security wise, from
510
00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:47,568
a hash rate to security perspective.
511
00:28:47,928 --> 00:28:51,794
The Ethereum blockchain is about
five times as ineffective, and
512
00:28:51,794 --> 00:28:55,514
the Litecoin blockchain about 10
times as ineffective as the Bitcoin
513
00:28:55,514 --> 00:28:56,534
blockchain at the time of writing.
514
00:28:57,704 --> 00:29:02,564
This in addition to the obviously more
centralized nature of these alternatives.
515
00:29:03,895 --> 00:29:06,385
Yeah, I think I'll pause there.
516
00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:10,705
Uh, I'm not, I'm not sure exactly how much
we haven't covered out of, out of these.
517
00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:15,985
Of course, the little bit about the,
um, shit coins is, uh, is in addition.
518
00:29:15,985 --> 00:29:18,265
But, uh, I don't know how
long you wanna linger on that.
519
00:29:18,910 --> 00:29:23,410
No, but it's an important paragraph
and, and maybe I, I, uh, uh, jumped
520
00:29:23,410 --> 00:29:27,670
to conclusions too early here in this
chapter because it's explained here.
521
00:29:27,985 --> 00:29:32,785
but it's crucial to understand why
a number beginning with zeroes is,
522
00:29:33,266 --> 00:29:36,206
Hinting at something very valuable.
523
00:29:36,656 --> 00:29:41,186
Uh, but the, the, the interesting
thing about the, what I say about the
524
00:29:41,486 --> 00:29:45,986
so-called cryptocurrencies or shit
coins in the end here is that, uh,
525
00:29:46,016 --> 00:29:49,271
this was written in 2019, early 2019.
526
00:29:49,911 --> 00:29:53,786
I. I believe in, it must have
been in February or something.
527
00:29:54,056 --> 00:29:59,606
So, and since then, uh, this is, this
has just been more and more true.
528
00:29:59,726 --> 00:30:02,816
Like today, it's, uh, it's
not even comparable anymore.
529
00:30:02,816 --> 00:30:07,296
Like, Ethereum is, is such
a shit show at this point.
530
00:30:07,326 --> 00:30:13,252
And unlike Coin two, like it's, uh,
there's not even a comparison to be made.
531
00:30:13,902 --> 00:30:15,962
And Ethereum isn't even
using proof of work anymore.
532
00:30:16,442 --> 00:30:16,892
No.
533
00:30:17,582 --> 00:30:20,912
So it has absolutely no sec security.
534
00:30:21,302 --> 00:30:25,112
Like proof of stake is
provably not working.
535
00:30:25,347 --> 00:30:26,222
It, it is.
536
00:30:26,252 --> 00:30:30,662
This, the system we're living in, like
central banking is proof of stake.
537
00:30:30,902 --> 00:30:37,322
So one guy gets to decide like it's,
it's uh, it is by definition centralized.
538
00:30:37,677 --> 00:30:40,497
If you have more resources, you win.
539
00:30:40,707 --> 00:30:41,967
Like Bitcoin is.
540
00:30:42,387 --> 00:30:48,117
Bitcoin is only decentralized because
it needs to be like decentralization
541
00:30:48,357 --> 00:30:53,547
is an unfortunate means to a greater
end, and that end is an absolutely
542
00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:59,295
finite, uh, supply of the monetary
token or resistance to replicability,
543
00:31:00,045 --> 00:31:01,365
something you cannot copy.
544
00:31:02,355 --> 00:31:04,875
That is the end goal,
the decentralization.
545
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:10,820
It's unfortunate that it, it's needed
because we only need it because,
546
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,070
uh, people cannot be trusted.
547
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:18,650
If every, if every human being was
trustworthy, we wouldn't need Bitcoin.
548
00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:22,220
We could just decide that these
are the number of coins available
549
00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:23,810
and it wouldn't be inflated.
550
00:31:24,170 --> 00:31:28,940
The reason we need the, the centralization
is to secure the network so that we can,
551
00:31:29,150 --> 00:31:31,310
everyone keeps everyone else in check.
552
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,480
So that it's not profitable
anymore to try to break the rules.
553
00:31:36,620 --> 00:31:39,980
That's the sad, the sad
truth about this thing.
554
00:31:40,348 --> 00:31:44,278
but it's also what makes it so
beautiful because in the end that
555
00:31:44,338 --> 00:31:46,108
don't trust, verify mentality.
556
00:31:46,108 --> 00:31:52,398
I. Leads to a society that is more
trusting, like we, we humans, uh, we
557
00:31:52,398 --> 00:31:56,058
unlock something within ourselves when
we become bitcoiners and it becomes
558
00:31:56,118 --> 00:32:00,768
easier to trust your fellow man, not
harder because you know, that fellow man
559
00:32:00,768 --> 00:32:02,808
has no incentive to cheat you anymore.
560
00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:06,528
So, yeah, it's, it's such a
beautiful system and that, that's
561
00:32:06,528 --> 00:32:07,608
why I started writing about it.
562
00:32:07,608 --> 00:32:12,318
It just mind blown by, by the whole,
the whole thing and what it implies.
563
00:32:13,918 --> 00:32:14,518
Just great.
564
00:32:14,518 --> 00:32:18,554
And honestly, these, these points
about why the other so-called
565
00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:21,674
cryptocurrencies just don't fit the bill.
566
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,780
it's important to discuss this stuff.
567
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,070
Absolutely.
568
00:32:25,580 --> 00:32:31,640
Because otherwise people are trying to
get into Bitcoin, trying to figure it out,
569
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:39,470
get led astray constantly and think that
some of these things are, are legitimate
570
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:41,360
and I have a lot of empathy for.
571
00:32:41,855 --> 00:32:44,675
People who have had their shit
coin phase or who, who get into
572
00:32:44,675 --> 00:32:49,655
crypto, uh, because many of them
are not there for the gambling.
573
00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:55,895
They think it's, they think it's the way
out of a, of a system that is broken.
574
00:32:56,195 --> 00:32:59,825
And just think crypto is the the thing.
575
00:32:59,855 --> 00:33:03,665
It's the thing that's gonna go up and
whatever it is, it's all ignorance.
576
00:33:03,665 --> 00:33:08,135
It's all from not getting directed to the
right thing, which of course is Bitcoin.
577
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,430
So this is why I like explaining this
stuff because it, it actually is relevant.
578
00:33:13,910 --> 00:33:17,900
Um, if, if you've gotten, if you're,
if you're here with us, you probably
579
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:21,950
already have this figured out, but
still it's, it bears repeating.
580
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:22,010
I.
581
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:23,475
I mean, still there.
582
00:33:24,890 --> 00:33:32,289
Bitcoiners shouldn't like try to forbid,
shift coins or forbid Bitcoin forks.
583
00:33:32,289 --> 00:33:33,159
That's, that's.
584
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:34,839
Very counterproductive.
585
00:33:35,019 --> 00:33:38,259
Bitcoin is what it is because
we agree that it is this thing.
586
00:33:38,679 --> 00:33:44,739
Uh, but that also implies that we need
alternatives to, uh, to, to, to exist,
587
00:33:44,739 --> 00:33:46,509
to figure out what the real thing is.
588
00:33:46,749 --> 00:33:49,659
But at the end of the day,
it's very, very simple.
589
00:33:50,169 --> 00:33:50,979
Fiat currencies.
590
00:33:51,479 --> 00:33:56,189
one guy gets to decide, uh, uh, if
we're going to print more money or not.
591
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,819
So one guy can print money or
one institution can print money.
592
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,969
Uh, shit coins or cryptocurrencies.
593
00:34:03,569 --> 00:34:05,129
Everyone gets to print more money.
594
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:07,049
So it's, it's up to you.
595
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:09,779
Bitcoin, no one gets to print money.
596
00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:12,209
That's, that's the
difference between the three.
597
00:34:12,904 --> 00:34:13,624
Very good point.
598
00:34:14,109 --> 00:34:18,664
I, I think that's a good
summary there onto the next one.
599
00:34:19,802 --> 00:34:24,242
Some of the futurists and doomsday
prophets mentioned in chapter four as
600
00:34:24,242 --> 00:34:28,052
the people most likely to warn us about
the dangers of the impending artificial
601
00:34:28,052 --> 00:34:32,672
intelligence singularity, believe that
we already live in a simulated reality.
602
00:34:33,602 --> 00:34:36,902
The main argument for this worldview
is that since simulations and
603
00:34:36,902 --> 00:34:40,472
computer graphics seem to be getting
better at an ever accelerating
604
00:34:40,472 --> 00:34:44,372
rate, we can't really know if we
already live in a simulation or not.
605
00:34:45,181 --> 00:34:49,741
To put it another way, we simply have no
way of knowing if we live in the matrix
606
00:34:50,101 --> 00:34:51,961
or if our perceived reality is all.
607
00:34:51,961 --> 00:34:56,521
There is really mind blowing
counterargument to this theory is that
608
00:34:56,521 --> 00:35:00,361
Bitcoin's proof of work algorithm would
eventually slow down the simulation
609
00:35:00,661 --> 00:35:05,821
since proof of work is verifiable and
can't be simulated itself, computing
610
00:35:05,821 --> 00:35:10,201
power would have to be sacrificed
by some entity somewhere regardless.
611
00:35:11,101 --> 00:35:12,631
One question remains though.
612
00:35:13,381 --> 00:35:17,851
Can the inhabitants of a simulated reality
actually feel or measure a slowdown
613
00:35:17,851 --> 00:35:19,741
of the very simulation they live in?
614
00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:22,897
Interesting thought
experiment and the chapter.
615
00:35:23,694 --> 00:35:26,574
Yes, it has nothing to do with
the rest of the chapter, does it?
616
00:35:26,937 --> 00:35:32,277
I discussed this with Dr. Bansal and Giamo
Soko on stage, on at Bitcoin Atlantis.
617
00:35:32,277 --> 00:35:33,597
I believe in Madera.
618
00:35:34,137 --> 00:35:35,337
Uh, I love this thought.
619
00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:41,457
Uh, it's, it's a very, like, uh, and this
is one of those, it is just provoking.
620
00:35:42,032 --> 00:35:43,832
Thought in every way possible.
621
00:35:43,832 --> 00:35:46,682
And then, uh, I don't leave anything else.
622
00:35:46,682 --> 00:35:48,722
I don't explore the ideas with the reader.
623
00:35:48,722 --> 00:35:50,672
I just, uh, mention them.
624
00:35:51,002 --> 00:35:55,022
Uh, so I don't know why I did
that in this book, really.
625
00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:59,342
But, but, uh, but the, the thought
still intrigues me when, when thinking
626
00:35:59,342 --> 00:36:03,414
about this, Simulation theory thing,
it's important to remember that
627
00:36:03,414 --> 00:36:05,304
simulation theory is not a new idea.
628
00:36:05,304 --> 00:36:09,924
It's been around for like 500
years, this matrixy dream, within
629
00:36:09,924 --> 00:36:11,904
a dream, within a dream concept.
630
00:36:11,904 --> 00:36:16,824
Philosophers have been battling that
since forever, and, uh, It, it's sort of
631
00:36:16,824 --> 00:36:21,294
like the free will debate at, at the end
of the day, it doesn't matter because
632
00:36:21,294 --> 00:36:26,004
we're in the reality we are in and
we're not in the other other realities.
633
00:36:26,424 --> 00:36:27,744
Same thing with free will.
634
00:36:27,744 --> 00:36:30,294
If you have it, then
there's no discussion.
635
00:36:30,294 --> 00:36:34,224
If you don't, you can't do anything
about anything anyway, so, so you
636
00:36:34,224 --> 00:36:37,134
might as well like act as if you do.
637
00:36:37,634 --> 00:36:40,844
it's one of those, uh,
weird, weird things.
638
00:36:40,844 --> 00:36:48,449
But, but it is interesting that a. A
simulation of Earth would have to include
639
00:36:48,449 --> 00:36:54,599
a simulation of the proof of work in,
in Bitcoin mining, which in itself is
640
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,459
costly in terms of computing power.
641
00:36:56,609 --> 00:37:01,319
I, I just, uh, I just like that,
uh, that fact, if you want, I.
642
00:37:01,777 --> 00:37:03,872
it is an interesting thought
experiment, definitely.
643
00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:09,317
And well, so much as there are smart
people who really think we are, in fact,
644
00:37:09,317 --> 00:37:14,214
in a simulation and all of the computing
power being used for this and that, yeah,
645
00:37:14,214 --> 00:37:15,624
it's hard to square these two things.
646
00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:19,914
I guess that the, the probability
that we're in a simulation to some
647
00:37:19,914 --> 00:37:21,894
people's estimation is extremely high.
648
00:37:22,764 --> 00:37:24,954
But there's all of this
computing going on.
649
00:37:25,314 --> 00:37:30,924
And by the way, all of the AI stuff also
is in that category, honestly, because
650
00:37:31,404 --> 00:37:33,174
they're using computing power also.
651
00:37:33,924 --> 00:37:37,764
Maybe that's less verifiable because
it's not about mathematical cryptography.
652
00:37:38,364 --> 00:37:40,884
But it's still a lot of computing power.
653
00:37:40,884 --> 00:37:44,934
Maybe the AI stuff is actually
more of an ev more of evidence for
654
00:37:45,174 --> 00:37:47,964
the simulation because maybe that
stuff can be more easily faked.
655
00:37:48,024 --> 00:37:48,444
I don't know.
656
00:37:48,879 --> 00:37:52,779
No, but That's where the theory comes
from, like the, that AI is getting so good
657
00:37:52,779 --> 00:37:54,789
and computer graphics are getting so good.
658
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,139
Of course, these things are run
on computers, so, so if they would
659
00:37:59,139 --> 00:38:02,229
require a lot of computing power,
this is just saying that the computer
660
00:38:02,229 --> 00:38:06,189
on top, creating that reality with
that thing in it would also have to
661
00:38:06,189 --> 00:38:09,999
do the proof of work algorithm, which
is more computing power than anything
662
00:38:09,999 --> 00:38:12,849
else in, uh, uh, on Earth right now.
663
00:38:12,849 --> 00:38:16,119
It's still the, the, the biggest
computer network there is, is
664
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,309
the, the, uh, bitcoin network.
665
00:38:18,874 --> 00:38:23,584
So, no, it's, uh, it's an intriguing
thought anyway, uh, by the way,
666
00:38:23,764 --> 00:38:28,744
uh, I, I looked up how many
comps.com and that site is still up.
667
00:38:29,134 --> 00:38:31,684
Uh, what, what did I say in
the last paragraph there?
668
00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:36,784
That, uh, Litecoin took, like,
had like a fifth of the security
669
00:38:36,784 --> 00:38:37,864
of Bitcoin or something,
670
00:38:37,869 --> 00:38:38,574
You said a 10th.
671
00:38:39,179 --> 00:38:39,499
a 10th.
672
00:38:40,554 --> 00:38:44,244
Today it's the second biggest because
Ethereum isn't even there anymore
673
00:38:44,244 --> 00:38:45,744
since they moved to Proof of Stake.
674
00:38:46,284 --> 00:38:49,824
And Litecoin is, uh,
11 times slower today.
675
00:38:50,364 --> 00:38:56,964
Like so for six confirmations in, in
Bitcoin is equivalent to 268 Con, uh,
676
00:38:57,024 --> 00:39:01,224
uh, confirmations in on Litecoin to
get to the same level of security.
677
00:39:02,034 --> 00:39:05,154
And then there's Dogecoin, and
then there's Ethereum Classic.
678
00:39:05,859 --> 00:39:11,199
But yeah, the point, point stance that
it's, uh, it's getting worse over time
679
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:13,269
and not better for the share coins.
680
00:39:13,569 --> 00:39:14,679
Yeah, very good point.
681
00:39:14,709 --> 00:39:19,089
And I think the summation of this
chapter, since we're done now, is
682
00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:24,039
basically that, uh, proof of work is
this fundamental thing at the base
683
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,819
of Bitcoin, proof of work algorithm,
plus the difficulty adjustment.
684
00:39:27,819 --> 00:39:32,409
And these things are essential and
explaining why they're essential I
685
00:39:32,409 --> 00:39:34,299
think is the point of this chapter.
686
00:39:34,359 --> 00:39:36,909
Do you have anything else
you'd like to say in summation?
687
00:39:37,637 --> 00:39:37,857
No.
688
00:39:37,882 --> 00:39:42,022
Uh, yeah, uh, that's a good
summation and uh, proof of work.
689
00:39:42,082 --> 00:39:45,412
Is very misunderstood, uh, that like.
690
00:39:46,207 --> 00:39:51,217
The, um, environmentalists who
misunderstand it think that it's, uh,
691
00:39:51,217 --> 00:39:55,807
it is wasting energy, but that's the
complete wrong way to, to look at it.
692
00:39:55,807 --> 00:39:57,127
It's not wasting energy.
693
00:39:57,127 --> 00:39:59,827
It's sacrificing energy
for something much better.
694
00:40:00,307 --> 00:40:02,347
And what they also forget about is the.
695
00:40:02,947 --> 00:40:07,387
Consensus mechanism of fiat currencies,
we've alluded to this before because the
696
00:40:07,387 --> 00:40:13,112
consensus mechanism of fiat currencies
and whoever gets to decide what money a,
697
00:40:13,117 --> 00:40:19,027
a nation runs on or what gets to be the
global reserve currency is world wars.
698
00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,007
That's the consensus mechanism.
699
00:40:21,547 --> 00:40:24,427
If that's not wasteful, I
don't know what wasteful is.
700
00:40:24,817 --> 00:40:30,307
So, so they're, they're not taking into
account how costly in terms of energy.
701
00:40:30,307 --> 00:40:32,497
The, the current monetary system is this.
702
00:40:33,952 --> 00:40:38,542
Uh, doing proof of work, uh, I would
argue is actually the most efficient
703
00:40:38,542 --> 00:40:42,742
way of getting to a consensus of
what, what is money and what is not.
704
00:40:43,282 --> 00:40:47,812
Uh, every other way that has been tried
has been more costly in terms of not
705
00:40:47,812 --> 00:40:53,152
only you need world wars to come to a
consensus, but of the vast number of,
706
00:40:53,302 --> 00:40:58,342
uh, first and foremost, the vast number
of misallocated resources in society.
707
00:40:58,972 --> 00:41:03,854
It's like this, Example from, from
previous chapters that you, you never
708
00:41:03,854 --> 00:41:08,924
get to exponential growth if you, if you,
if you shoot yourself in the foot all
709
00:41:08,924 --> 00:41:14,564
the time and, and put up roadblocks to
prosperity, uh, which is what monetary
710
00:41:14,564 --> 00:41:16,454
interventionists do all the time.
711
00:41:16,454 --> 00:41:19,784
Not only by taxing people, but
by inflating the money supply,
712
00:41:19,994 --> 00:41:25,634
it gets harder for people to, uh,
to accumulate wealth and prosper.
713
00:41:25,634 --> 00:41:25,994
And, and, and.
714
00:41:27,629 --> 00:41:30,299
Progress humanity into the future.
715
00:41:30,419 --> 00:41:36,449
Uh, everything gets, uh, is handicapped by
interventionism, and that is what Bitcoin,
716
00:41:36,449 --> 00:41:38,249
that is the problem that Bitcoin solves.
717
00:41:38,249 --> 00:41:40,649
It solves the inflation problem.
718
00:41:40,709 --> 00:41:46,049
It's, it solves the abundance of money
and scarcity in anything, everything else.
719
00:41:46,049 --> 00:41:47,279
So it's the other way around.
720
00:41:47,609 --> 00:41:51,299
This is Jeff Booth point, like when
you have scarcity and money, you
721
00:41:51,299 --> 00:41:52,739
have abundance everywhere else.
722
00:41:53,069 --> 00:41:57,984
Uh, and People need to understand that on
a deep level to to, to understand Bitcoin.
723
00:41:58,194 --> 00:42:01,494
Like I, I don't believe you can
understand Bitcoin if you don't
724
00:42:01,494 --> 00:42:05,741
first, uh, understand the problem it
solves and that problem is inflation.
725
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,559
Absolutely love it.
726
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:08,759
Fantastic summation.
727
00:42:09,089 --> 00:42:14,369
So I think with that, this has
been the proof of work chapter from
728
00:42:14,369 --> 00:42:15,689
sovereignty through mathematics.
729
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Is, uh, the, the last year's course
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So either, uh, take the, this year's
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Absolutely perfect.
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Tradition there?
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Yes.
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And, and also thank you to Bit Box.
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So thank you to them for that.
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And they don't compromise on security,
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791
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Got some other cool stuff.
796
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And come to.
797
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The, the Bitcoin conference in
Helsinki that we're co-organizing,
798
00:45:47,061 --> 00:45:48,741
uh, it's gonna be lots of fun.
799
00:45:48,741 --> 00:45:51,981
We have lots of great speakers
and, uh, yeah, looking forward
800
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to seeing you all there.
801
00:45:52,941 --> 00:45:55,101
Or, or at any of the other conferences.
802
00:45:55,311 --> 00:45:58,251
Like if you're going to a Bitcoin
conference or if you're buying
803
00:45:58,941 --> 00:46:03,111
Bitcoin paraphernalia, you should
try to use code Infinity everywhere
804
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because we have that code with, uh.
805
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Most of our friends, uh, we have
a lot of friends, so, uh, yes, uh,
806
00:46:11,946 --> 00:46:13,416
that's a good way to get a discount
807
00:46:13,671 --> 00:46:18,641
Definitely, and you'll see us in, uh uh,
you'll see Ktin Ireland, both of us in
808
00:46:18,641 --> 00:46:21,611
Prague, both of us in Riga now, I think.
809
00:46:21,701 --> 00:46:22,331
Uh, and then.
810
00:46:22,421 --> 00:46:23,471
Of course, Helsinki.
811
00:46:23,471 --> 00:46:25,511
So, uh, Calgary.
812
00:46:25,511 --> 00:46:26,471
Yeah, I forgot about that.
813
00:46:26,501 --> 00:46:27,071
Yeah.
814
00:46:27,071 --> 00:46:27,072
Yeah.
815
00:46:27,281 --> 00:46:32,111
Um, yeah, we'll be, we'll be in, uh, tons,
tons of places this, uh, this summer.
816
00:46:32,111 --> 00:46:33,641
So, so come see us somewhere.
817
00:46:33,941 --> 00:46:36,971
Uh, but if you come see us
anywhere and you're, you know,
818
00:46:36,971 --> 00:46:38,261
traveling or whatever it is.
819
00:46:38,631 --> 00:46:39,411
Come to Helsinki.
820
00:46:39,711 --> 00:46:40,851
Yeah, just do that.
821
00:46:41,031 --> 00:46:41,331
Yeah.
822
00:46:41,841 --> 00:46:43,551
Um, we're, we're really excited about it.
823
00:46:43,551 --> 00:46:47,301
We're just, uh, we're just about
to open a, a physical pop-up shop
824
00:46:47,301 --> 00:46:49,281
actually in, uh, in Helsinki.
825
00:46:49,281 --> 00:46:50,901
So we're, we're really excited about that.
826
00:46:50,901 --> 00:46:52,731
You'll be able to come, come see us there.
827
00:46:52,731 --> 00:46:56,391
You'll even be able to get finished
Translations of, uh, of Knut's
828
00:46:56,391 --> 00:46:58,146
first two books pretty soon here.
829
00:46:58,641 --> 00:47:02,271
Uh, we're working on the third
and fourth one, so, uh, uh, yeah.
830
00:47:02,421 --> 00:47:05,001
Exciting things happening
in in Finland, in Helsinki.
831
00:47:05,652 --> 00:47:05,942
Yeah.
832
00:47:05,947 --> 00:47:06,717
Super cool.
833
00:47:07,099 --> 00:47:10,519
I think with that, uh, thank
you very much for listening.
834
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:12,619
This has been the
Bitcoin Infinity Academy.
835
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:13,879
Anything else to add?
836
00:47:13,879 --> 00:47:14,239
Knut.
837
00:47:16,374 --> 00:47:16,794
As usual.
838
00:47:17,024 --> 00:47:17,314
Yeah.
839
00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:19,279
Thanks for listening.
840
00:47:20,384 --> 00:47:20,604
Bye.